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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 13 October 12 16:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
The family tree you found is my family tree in Ancestry
but i did find on the freedom of guilds Dublin dated 14 Oct 1822
William Bell Rogerson fathers masters & c was  a John Rogerson.
i would love any help
thank you.
Anne-Elaine

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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #10 on: Monday 15 October 12 10:20 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne-Elaine,

Have you seen a web site - Sir John Rogerson - Turtle Bunbury? It is principally about Dublin Docklands but gives an overview of Sir John Rogerson's life.

He lived 1646-1724 married Elizabeth Proby.

His eldest son John (1676-1741) became Chief Justice of Ireland. He married Elizabeth Ludlow, had 5 children (4 girls) and the son John (1719-1785) is said to have died unmarried age 66.

I have not found any links nor can I find any of William Bell Rogerson children's births in Ireland (without possibly searching records for a fee).  The only son born in England was George Nugent Ippersal Rogerson in Liverpool in 1846. A strange set of names, which could suggests some links to other families?   

There is a suggestion that Sir John Rogerson's younger son was William Rogerson and that William's  wife Alice (or Alicia Molyneux) remarried Sir Richard Wolseley after William's premature death. I wondered if a connection could be made from this line? Maybe there was a child from her marriage to William before she remarried?

Just some thoughts that may help. I will keep looking to see if anything crops up.

Alan


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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 01:05 BST (UK) »
HI Tutle bunbury phoned me up i emailed him.
But as you can see no one new about Sir john, as Tutle said who was his farther were did he come from
we did have a wedding docket my aunt took it to Dublin in the 60's and they just said it may not be real
if it had been now they could have found out. but i do not know the names on the docket
as far as i can make  out we came from a first marriage
the only  marrage docket we can find after my aunty's death is a Ann Jane Mcgill born 1807 and William Bell Rogerson born 1799 married in  Dublin 1824,  farther was John Rogerson.
Maybe i should take a look at what you said about William
sounds about right were would  the child have gone? as far as i know it was cast aside no one new about  it  Mmmmm makes me think !!!! and with it been a first marriage
My Aunt was the only one that would talk about it but i left it to long to ask
 Mmmmm it was always said his 1st marrige and all the money went to his second in Dublin O i dont know lol
anyway thanks for your help
Hope to hear from you again

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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 03:36 BST (UK) »
William Bell Rogerson born Dublin 1798 or 1799


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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 03:38 BST (UK) »
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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 16 October 12 04:29 BST (UK) »
I can find William Bell Rogerson & Anne Jane Rogerson (ne mcgill) in London 33 canonbury sq Islington 1851  and 1861, death for Anne was 1862 then William Bell turned up in liverpool
                                                  ( both born in Dublin )
Then he married my gt grandmother in  wales And had my grandfarther age 79 his death was in that year to           (  william bell rogerson son in 1877.)

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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 08:44 BST (UK) »
Hi Anne-Elaine,

No other joy I'm afraid. I think I will have to admit defeat!

Maybe now is the time to consider -

1) Posting a full message on the Ireland "Rootschat" Board to see if a local expert has a more specialized knowledge/response of the Rogerson family in Dublin and

2) Contact a researcher in Ireland to do some investigative work on your behalf.- see National Archives of Ireland web site. I wondered if perhaps the wills/probate details of John Rogerson (if you could find them) may give any clues in establishing the link you seek.

Alan


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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 17 October 12 11:33 BST (UK) »
Hi thanks for trying to help.
I am going to  Dublin with my sister in about 3 weeks, were could we start to look do you think it will do any good?
Anne -Elaine

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Re: grave in llangwyllog
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 18 October 12 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Alan
Just found out after you told me to go on the ireland roots that William bells sons
 baptism were at the same church as William bell rogerson and Alice mullinuex  marrage this was on 13 July 1817 in the ireland   parish of clontarf.!!!what do you think
Anne Elaine