Catherine Turley birth/emigration lookup please

[dhaskett]

I'm looking for information about the birth of Catherine Turley. I have been told she was from Liverpool, and was born in 1922. Her father was Thomas Turley and mother was Annie? (possibly Casey). I know nothing more of her parents, except that they were living in Liverpool. Catherine had a sister Nancy. When their mother died, the story goes that their father was unable to look after them, so they were sent to live with their aunts in Ireland. I don't know what year they travelled or what port they sailed from/to. They ended up in Newcastle West in County Limerick, and Catherine married Maurice O'Connor. She died in 1992.

[KGarrad]

This looks like her birth from FreeBMD:

December qtr 1922
West Derby district    vol 8b, page 1170

Turley, Catherine    Mother's Maiden Name: Casey


Parent's marriage:
March qtr 1922
West Derby district    vol 8b, page 782

Turley, Thomas
Casey, Annie

[tina morana]

Hi there, there's a birth in W Dby rego area of Lpool for a Catherine maiden name Casey, 4th qtr 1922.
Annie 1924 (possibly Nancy) Lpool rego
Thomas 1926 Lpool rego
Marriage Thomas Turley 1st qtr 1922 to Annie Casey.
Lancs BMD have the marriage, West Derby R.O or Registrar attended.
Mostly like the second option which would mean an R.C wedding.
There is a death Lpool rego in 1926 for an Annie Turley aged 24yrs.Very sad.

Tinam

[KGarrad]

A public tree on Ancestry suggests:

Thomas Turley was born 1887 in Preston
Annie Casey was born in Newcastle West, Limerick (date unknown)

And Catherine died in 1992.
Her sister is apparently still living (no date of death, anyway).

[dhaskett]

Many thanks KGarrad and  Tinam.

Very sad indeed. It must have been shortly after Annie's death that Catherine and Nancy were sent to Ireland. Do you know where I could look for shipping records for their departure?

Also, would a marriage record typically contain parents names? I would like to find out Annie's parents names and Thomas's parents names too.

Is there anywhere I can search the census records for Thomas and Annie?

Thanks

[KGarrad]

The latest census available is the 1911 - but only on pay-per-view or subscription sites.
The 1921 census will not be available until 2021.

There are no shipping records between UK and Ireland - after all it was simply domestic ferry routes!

The marriage certificate or parish register entry will show father's names.
If it is indeed a Catholic marriage, there may also be mother's names.

[tina morana]

Hi D.H  
I doubt you will find any shipping records from Lpool to Ireland. They just hopped on the ferry.
Yes the marriage cert will give their father's names, possibly alive or deceased and occupation.
Also the addresses where the couple were living. I'm sorry, I'm not very cluey when it comes to records in Ireland.
Thanks KG for the Anc info.
I looked in Gores/Kelly's Directory for Lpool 1938 no Thomas Turley listed.
Tinam

[dhaskett]

Many thanks to both of you for your help. I have just ordered their marriage certificate from the GRO, so hopefully that will shed some light on their father's names.

Thanks,

David

[KGarrad]

IF (big if!) we assume that the tree on Ancestry is accurate, then this is Thomas in 1891:

Reference RG12, Piece 3442, Folio 70, Page 45

Turley, Thomas  Head  M  29  Blacksmith
Turley, Jane  Wife  F  26  Cotton Weaver
Turley, Thomas  Son  M  3
Turley, Hannah  Daughter  F  1                     all born Preston