origins

[rodc]

Hi,
am seeking the origins i.e. emigration from either wales/england of the Challoners of Thomastown ?
Can anyone help?
Thanks in advance
Rodc

[KGarrad]

Any clues?
E.G. dates? Names?

[rodc]

Hi,
No, I have no info yet about the specific family cluster in Thomastown. I was curious as to how they arrived there and when?
I've done an extensive search of pretty much all that pertains to the name in UK going back to about 1000 a.d. The name is a British rendition of the original Anglo-Saxon that seems to be derived from the German - not French, as is touted.
There are many variations of it that seem to stem from Anglo-Norman derived English regional dialects and accents.
The Welsh renditions seem to be pure forming on the German base.
The earliest date found thus far in Ireland is about 1640. These persons may have accompanied the Cromwellian folks or simply have been weavers seeking new opportunities. Possibly Dutch or Flemish trades imported as skilled labor' as they have been found in Dublin in that capacity.
My reason is that a one time 'disappeared' sibling of my 3X grandfather from Cheshire was eventually traced to KilKenny.
Question is why did he chose to go there and did he have a specific place to go / person to meet??
If such a connection can be established many people will be most appreciative. 
Rodc 

[ballydw]

www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation
There are 54 entries for Challoner surname in Ireland.

[Jack2227]

National School Pilltown 1884;
Teacher; Henry Challoner;
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Thomastown graveyard (New) headstones;
Michael Challoner; The Mall; 5/9/1965 (64)
wife-Catherine; 7/5/1987 (85)
her bro-Thomas Kelly; 27/12/1992 (83)
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Johanna (Josie) Challoner; Dangan Tce; 18/8/1995
her son-Oliver; Died in infancy
hus-Jim; 15/3/1996
Anne Jolley (nee Maher); 15/2/2009 (91)
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Joseph Challoner; Dangan Tce; 15/6/1960
dtr-Marie; 13/12/2001 (54)
Anna (wife of Joseph); 6/3/2006 (88)
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John Challoner; Newtown Tce; 2/4/1996
infant son-Thomas; 17/4/1957
wife-Mary (nee Fennelly); 12/4/2006 (82)
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Daniel Challoner; Newtown Tce; 21/3/1969  (64)
wife-Elizabeth; 14/2/1985 (77)
their children-Daniel-John, Frances (died in infancy)
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Robert Challoner; Castle Ave; 22/6/1982 (37)
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Joseph (Joe) Challoner; Cloughabrophy Heights; 19/7/2006 (51)
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Jack

[rodc]

Hello Ballydw & Seanmac,
Thanks for your contributions. I have looked at the Griffiths Valuations previously and also much of the info available online re: Thomastown & the Chals there. The LDS site [if I recall correctly] turns up about 200 various Chals scattered mostly in the area s & w of Dublin. There's some considerable nuggets of historical info re: some of the names documented in the Elizabethan period in Dublin and Meath, who are not connected to my lines, but very litte else generally.
The particular period looked at is about 1825 when the person referred to as having 'disappeared' did so.
The question is did he have a destination in mind and possibly a relative from whom he could seek assistance from or was he simply following some notion?
Thanks again
Rodc
   

[KGarrad]

The Army was barracked in Kilkenny for many years - maybe your secretive (i.e. no name?!) ancestor joined the Army.

My own ancestor did just that in the 1860's!

[rodc]

Hey KGarrard!
Ha-ha!
No, it's certain this person was not in the army.
No secrets here. Not my direct line. Belongs to another.
The who,when,where are known.
What isn't known is the why?
Thanks anyway for the contributions.
Rodc
 

[KGarrad]

Fair enough. Now I give up!

The who when and where might be known to you, but you're still keeping it secret?