Jacobus HEANEY aka James Francis SMITH

[lynfour]

In ding some research for a friend, I found the following information on a tree at Anc....y.

Her GG grandfather is listed as
Jacobus Heaney Aka James Francis Smith  !!!
Birth 1829 in Launceston, Tasmania,
Death 02 OCT 1897 in Bairnsdale Victoria  as James Francis Smith
Married Maria Jane Bond 1857, Sale Victoria  as James Francis Smith.
 Her G Grandmother was
 Charlotte May Smith
b 1878 Sale Victoria
Married Andrew McCann 1901 Victoria.
Her grandmother was
Muriel Jane McCann
b 1904 Bairnsdale, Victoria

I haven't been able to find any information on why they think Jacobus Heaney & James Smith are one & the same person 
Any help or information would be greatly appreciated 

[sparrett]

Perhaps the tree's author has sighted a marriage certificate which may hold details of JAMES' parents' names, and other information about his background.
However I note the places of birth of this couple are not shown on the marriage registration.

SMITH James
To BOND Maria Jane
Year 1857
Reg 2326
I note also the second given name FRANCIS is absent.
Your friend could download this certificate and possibly get more clues.
Cost  Aus. $20.00.  You will need the registration number which is given above on the index entry.
http://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/page/Family+history?OpenDocument&1=60-Family+history~&2=~&3=~

This link shows what you may see on all Victorian certificates.  How complete and accurate the information is, depends on the knowledge of the informant.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html

Tas birth
Jacobus HEANEY   
Birth 1829 - HOBART,Tasmania [c]
Parents
COOPER, MARIA ANNA   
HEANEY RICARDO   


A sister   MARIA ANNA 1827

There seems to be evidence the parents in TASMANIA anglicised their names to RICHARD and MARY ANN, but it is hard to be definite as records are incomplete. Newspapers certainly contain snippets about RICHARD HEANEY.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/

 http://portal.archives.tas.gov.au/menu.aspx?search=8

On the burial register from BAIRNSDALE CEMETERY JAMES FRANCIS is listed as C of E. A labourer aged 71 (which differs from the death reg.below)

SMITH  Jas Francis
Father  Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN
Age 67
Death Place Bdale
Year 1897
Reg. 11152


Sue
 

[Noells]

Sometimes submitters to those Public member trees have not checked the sources of their information and are often incorrect. I have had personal experience of this with my family details.

I have found the following info and it looks like Jacobus/James may be different people.
Sparret has found the birth but I will copy the details in here as well. I have also found additional information from bmd databases on ancestry.

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Jacobus Heany
Father's Name: Ricardo Heany
Mother's name: Maria Anna Cooper
Birth Place: Tasmania
Registration Year: 1829    Registration Place: Hobart, Tasmania   Registration number: 3091
 
 

Australia Marriage Index, 1788-1950
Name: Richard Heany
Spouse Name: Mary A Cooper
Marriage Date: 1821
Marriage Place: New South Wales   Registration Place: Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Year: 1821    Volume Number: V
 
 
New South Wales, Australia, Departing Crew and Passenger Lists, 1816-1825, 1898-1911
Name: Mrs Mary Heaney     Departure Date: 19 May 1821
Destination Port: Port Dalrymple, Australia   - this was the original name for Launceston
Ship: Mary
Rank: Wife of Master.
Richard Heaney on same voyage – Master of the Ship.

Noells

[wivenhoe]

Van Diemens Land Gazette etc..  19 Jul 1823
birth...12th...of a son..Mrs Richard Heaney, of Montague Park...first birth at that settlement.


Van Diemens Land Gazette etc..  31 Dec 1824
...letter fromMr Richard Heaney, of Ross Bridge...house fire 19th...house, property destroyed....Mrs H who had been confined only nine days...and all children ...safe.



The Courier 27 Aug 1841

died..at Perth..... 20th....Capt Richard Heany, aged 56yrs...old, respected colonist


Launceston Examiner 1 May 1847

Married - by special license, at St Mary's Sydney, on 7th, by Rev. Mr Somner, Robert

Heaney, second son of the late Richard Heaney, of Launceston, Van Diemens Land,

and grandson to Mr Robert Cooper, of Juniper Hall, to Catherine Fitzpatrick of Sydney


NSW BDM
319/1900 death Richard E HEANEY           Sydney
parents Richard and Mary

[Rhonda May]

Juniper Hall built c1825 for Robert COOPER.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juniper_Hall,_Paddington

Rhonda

[sparrett]

wivenhoe, Hope you will not mind this correction


319/1900  HEANEY,  ROBERT E. Parents  RICHARD &  MARY  SYDNEY

Sue   

[sparrett]

I am not persuaded yet that the two were different men, though the hard evidence is hard to find

As I said above, there was probably an anglicing of names, notably RICARDO.

Among  the names of the many  children of  JAMES FRANCIS SMITH and MARIA JANE BOND I see ROBERT, ANNA MARIA, ALFRED RICHARD and CHARLOTTE.

{CHARLOTTE HEANEY was born in 1821 in Launceston.  Her parents are not listed. She may have married  WILLIAM LONG as there is a marriage on TAS bmd}


Sue

[sparrett]

This may support the notion that CHARLOTTE HEANEY was a daughter of Richard


1843 Re Claims for grants of land

William Long and Edward Messiler Dyne, Launceston, 32 perches, originally W. Blackall, who devised same to A. Blackall, who conveyed to R. Heaney, applicants claim as trustees for the children of the said R. Heaney, deceased.
 

 
http://www.rootschat.com/links/0s48/

There is a will  in the name of RICHARD HEANEY (Perhaps 1843 is when it was proved  )

Heaney   Richard   1843   AD961/1/2   550

Sue

[~MERLIN~]

BAPTISMS:

HENNEY CHARLOTTE MONTAGUE bpt. 18 May 1822 HOBART #1233/1822 RGD 32
Father: RICHARD
Mother: MARY ANN

HEANY MARIA ANNA bpt. 25 Feb 1827 HOBART #2389/1827 RGD 32
Father: RICARDO
Mother: COOPER MARIA ANNA

HEANY JACOBUS bpt. 15 Feb 1829 HOBART #3091/1829 RGD 32
Father: RICARDO
Mother: COOPER MARIA ANNA