where was Petrieston, Garvock?

[heymin]

Hi, I have found the below in "rootsweb" by someone who visited Benholm churchyard. You may have it already and I'm afraid it doesn't get you closer in your search.

 Sandstone, 5 feet tall. Erected/by/Alexander Thom/in memory of
> his wife/Violet Duncan/who died at Petrieston Garvock/28th March
> 1908 aged 80 years/His son William died at Upper Birnie/20th
> September 1888 aged 9 years./His daughter/Jemima/who died at
> Petrieston in Garvock/10th February 1910./The above/Alexander
> Thom/died at Laurancekirk/17th April 1936 aged 81 years.
> (Laurancekirk is of course Laurencekirk. Garvock is a farm in the
> same area, about 3 miles west of Benholm.)

[MonicaL]

One possibility is to find it in a valuation roll.

As suggested by Graham, the SP 1915 valuation roll entry shows on the index:

Owner - Miss Anna Katharine SCOTT, a land Petrieston Estate of Brotherton. Garvock   
Tenant/occupier - Alexander Thom, details as above.

Monica

[angusg]

Thanks to all,

I will have a go at the evaliation roles.

also look more closely at Brotherton on the Laurencekirk/Garvock area.

Yours Aye,
Angus

[Designer Jeans]

Hi

Assuming that the census enumerators in 1881 and 1891 worked their way east up the road from Hospital Shields to West Bradieston, then South Bradieston, then South Park of Bradieston, the next and only other dwelling on that side of the Garvock crossroads is a cottage currently called Braeburn.  The B9120 might make a  suitable boundary for that particular enumeration district.

Braeburn has been up for sale for a couple of years, search Braeburn Laurencekirk, and check the map.  Hard to tell, but it looks reasonably old.

A grocery business seems highly unlikely, it's remote and agricultural round here, just farms and farm cottages.  Brotherton is approx a mile away towards the coast.

I'll try to ask locally if Braeburn has ever been called anything else or you could try asking the estate agents ...

Valerie

[angusg]

Thankyou Valerie and all,
          After I posted I went looking for Alexander & Alexander
and  found them and several adult children and lodgers and boarders
at 9 Pirrie street, South Leith. Just off great Junction Street
at the bottom of Leith Walk. He was a General Lab.  This was not a surprise
as this was his address when he registered his Mother Elizabeth THAW or BEATTIE`s
death in 1903.

I checked the 1911 census for Garvock and found Alexander and his son Alexander
living at a Croft called Petrieston. Unfortunately this was schedule no 1 for Enumeration
For District #1. Alexander is listed as Crofter his son Alexander as Grocer both on "Own Account"
also present was Violet Johnston a grand daughter age 16.

Schedule No.2 is South Braideston Park, then Braideston and  East Braideston.

I looked at the 1915 Evaluation Rolls and Evaluation
line 13 Estate of Brotherton, Woodlands, Balhagarty line 14 Shootings
Miss Anna Katherine Scott of Brotheston, Proprietrix, per  W.Hope Robertson W.S.
(61 North Castle St., Edinburgh).
Line 15 Farm & House, East Balhagarty, Alex Middleton,        Farmer,   Tenant
Line 16 Farm & House West Balhagarty , James J. Abernethy Farmer    Tenant
Line 17 Farm & House Forth (part of)    ,  John Muckart,        Farmer,   Tenant 
Line 18 Land Petrieston              , Alex.Thom,            Merchant, Tenant
Line 19  Quarry Forth                           , unworked
Lines 20 thru 26 are a repeat of above but showing tenant occupier

Line 27 is Estate  of Braideston

All this detail and we now know that Petrieston falls right on the
boundary between district 1 & 2 at Garvock.possibly near the Forth Quarry.

[Designer Jeans]

Hi

Are you able to let me know what other properties are on the 1911 census Schedule 1, Enumeration District 1 so that I can get a fix on where we are please?

The 1915 Evaluation Rolls are in a slightly disconcerting order as I sort of expected them to follow the actual properties along the road i.e. Woodlands, West Balhagarty Farm, East Balhagarty Farm, cottage on the left (??Petrieston), Forth Farm, Quarry. 

I know that the cottage on the left belongs to the Brotherton Estate and that the quarry is on Brotherton Estate land. 

I still can't get my head round the grocer description, this is literally the middle of nowhere!

Valerie

[angusg]

Hi Valerie,
As I said on my last post Scheule #2 was  S Park Bradieston
                                                  #3 was  Braidieston
                                                  #4 & 5 was Braidieston.

In 1901 Census in Leith, Alexander & his father Alexander  were General Labourers.
living at 9 Pirrie Street, South Leith.
in 1911 at Petrieston, was a grocer on his own account.
               This does not necessarily mean he had a shop there.
            Also in the 1915 Evaluation Rolls Alexander Jr. is listed as Merchant.
           He could have been taking order and selling to other stores for a  particular manufactures.


            As an aside I have relatives of Alexander's Granmother Elizabeth BEATTIE, (her sister
           Mary and husband George SHIELDS show in various censii as farming at Blinnkbonnie, Benholm.
           The location does not appear on Current OS maps but I found it on an old map. It was further up
Paul Mathew Hill on the road around the foot of the hill not far from Muirton

Yours Aye
Angus

[Designer Jeans]

Well, now I haven't a clue where we are. 

There are no villages, or even clusters of houses (other than Benholm).  The style is a farmhouse each with one or maybe two cottars (farmworkers cottages).   Trade would have had to have been livestock (pigs, sheep, cattle) or crops (potatoes, neeps, wheat, barley).

So from the top of the Garvock with Laurencekirk behind you and facing the coast

In 1888 when Alex buries his son William he was at Upper Birnie which is beyiond the quarry, over towards Woodside and Brawleymuir (east of the Garvock crossroads)

In 1901 and 1903 he is in Leith (By coincidence I stayed at Constitution Street which is just round the corner from Pirrie Street in the summer.  Alex would almost certainly have been working in something connected to Leith Docks which were vibrant at the turn of the century)

In 1908 and 1911 he is at Petrieston

In 1881 and 1891 William Duke is at Petrieston occupation grocer

Who was living at Petrieston in 1901 and what was their occupation?

Did Petrieson and the grocer occupation go together?

If South Park of Bradieston is the second dwelling on the enumeration schedule, then the first would have been the cottage now called Braeburn (west of the Garvock crossroads)

But then again, if Petrieson is over by the quarry and Forth Farm it is a couple of miles away, back over towards Nether Birnie etc.

So basically, although I can see all of these places I haven't a clue, nor did the postie when I asked him this morning.  I will ask David, the current owner of the Brotherton Estate the next time I see him and in the meantime will keep searching.  If you can feed me anymore clues ...

[MonicaL]

Who was living at Petrieston in 1901 and what was their occupation?

Did Petrieson and the grocer occupation go together?

As you found in 1881 and 1891, William Duke is still there in 1901, occupation as before showing as Farmer Grocer & General Merchant.

Monica