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A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« on: Thursday 22 November 12 20:36 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,

Sorry if this is a stupid question!

Why is it that the likes of Family Search and Durham Records Online contain records which aren't to be found in the Bishops' Transcripts?

Here's an example searching for Robert Wood b. 1798 in Chester Le Street, Durham

Family Search Org results:-

Robert Wood
gender:   Male
baptism/christening date:   05 Mar 1798
baptism/christening place:   CHESTER LE STREET,DURHAM,ENGLAND
birth date:   05 Feb 1798
father's name:   George Wood
mother's name:   Margaret Copeland
indexing project (batch) number:   P00058-1
system origin:   England-ODM
source film number:   91090

Durham Records Online:-

Baptisms   Chester-le-Street   Robert   Wood   1798   1798   Chester-le-Street   

Now, I like to go to the Bishops' Transcripts and search for any additional details which the aforementioned results might not contain but searching through..

England, Diocese of Durha...ranscripts ca., 1700-1900
Durham
Chester le Street
1765-1821

Robert Wood is not to be seen.  Why is this?

Please note that this is just an example - not a request for anyone to go looking.  This is a regular occurrence.  I was under the impression that the Bishop's transcripts had all records from all parishes in eg:  Durham.

Can I deduce from this that the people who I am searching for are Methodist/Quaker/Non-conformist/Catholic/Mormon?

Thanks for help and advice.





Wood - Knaresborough
Bickerdike - Knaresborough
Rawlings - London
Borrill - Lincolnshire
Crawford - Lincolnshire
Skipworth - Friskney, Lincolnshire
Tune - Lincolnshire
Grocock - Lincolnshire
Harness - Lincolnshire
Manton - Lincolnshire
Pogmore - Lincolnshire
Spriggs - Lincolnshire
Triffitt - Lincolnshire

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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 22 November 12 20:44 GMT (UK) »
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Can I deduce from this that the people who I am searching for are Methodist/Quaker/Non-conformist/Catholic/Mormon?

NO - the film number you quote, 91010, is for the Parish Church, Chester le Street.

The Bishops transcripts were copies of the original registers - it is always possible that an incomplete/incorrect copy was made.
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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 22 November 12 20:50 GMT (UK) »
This is a regular occurrence.  I was under the impression that the Bishop's transcripts had all records from all parishes in eg:  Durham.

This isn't correct, I'm afraid.

The coverage isn't complete for all parishes, and there isn't complete coverage for all the years in those parishes which are included.
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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 22 November 12 22:18 GMT (UK) »
Thank you for the prompt reply, JenB.  Although you have answered my initial query, it leaves me with a few more related questions.

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The Bishops transcripts were copies of the original registers

Ah! I see.  Could you tell me where I might find the original registers?  (I realise that they might not exist anymore).

Also, is there any point in trawling through the Bishops' transcripts?  I mean, does it contain anything which isn't included in the LDS/Family Search Org site, itself?

And lastly, forgive my ignorance, but are there any other transcripts available online, other than Durham and the few other counties (partially) covered by the Bishop of Durham's Transcripts?

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This article may help https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/England_Church_Records#Bishop.27s_Transcripts

I will have a good read of this, Stan.  Thank you.

Many thanks, JenB.

David





Wood - Knaresborough
Bickerdike - Knaresborough
Rawlings - London
Borrill - Lincolnshire
Crawford - Lincolnshire
Skipworth - Friskney, Lincolnshire
Tune - Lincolnshire
Grocock - Lincolnshire
Harness - Lincolnshire
Manton - Lincolnshire
Pogmore - Lincolnshire
Spriggs - Lincolnshire
Triffitt - Lincolnshire

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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 22 November 12 22:23 GMT (UK) »
Just to say that Stan's link covers all of my questions.

Thank you both very much.

I will mark this thread as solved in a minute.

Best wishes,

David
Wood - Knaresborough
Bickerdike - Knaresborough
Rawlings - London
Borrill - Lincolnshire
Crawford - Lincolnshire
Skipworth - Friskney, Lincolnshire
Tune - Lincolnshire
Grocock - Lincolnshire
Harness - Lincolnshire
Manton - Lincolnshire
Pogmore - Lincolnshire
Spriggs - Lincolnshire
Triffitt - Lincolnshire

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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 22 November 12 22:24 GMT (UK) »
This Durham Record Office web page gives you all the information about the available records for Chester-le-Street St. Mary and St. Cuthbert
 http://www.rootschat.com/links/0sb4/

Stan
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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc. [SOLVED]
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 22 November 12 22:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Stan.

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Wood - Knaresborough
Bickerdike - Knaresborough
Rawlings - London
Borrill - Lincolnshire
Crawford - Lincolnshire
Skipworth - Friskney, Lincolnshire
Tune - Lincolnshire
Grocock - Lincolnshire
Harness - Lincolnshire
Manton - Lincolnshire
Pogmore - Lincolnshire
Spriggs - Lincolnshire
Triffitt - Lincolnshire

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Re: A question about Bishops' Transcripts and FamilySearch etc.
« Reply #8 on: Friday 23 November 12 00:26 GMT (UK) »
The baptism of Robert Wood is not on the Transcripts! I have given you the link to the actual page and you can see it is a bit erratic with incomplete dates and dates out of order on this page. So its back to 91090. That original will give more information like some of the other children on the attached Transcript.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11768-171600-24?cc=1309819&wc=MMRX-YWD:277289205