Thomas, James, Joseph and Frances Elizabeth PENDER 1881 **COMPLETED Thank you**

[Forfarian]

I'm doing my nut trying to find this family in the 1881 census.

William Henshaw Pender, born Stockport, 1848
James Pender, born 1876, Salford
Joseph Twynham Pender, born 1878, Salford
Frances Elizabeth Pender, born 1880, Salford

William died in 1886, and I have the three children with their grandmother in 1891, and I have William's parents and siblings in all the relevant years, but try as I will I cannot find this family in 1881. I don't know the mother's name, or when they were married, but apart from that I have all the birth references from FreeBMD. Maybe someone with the LDS CD-ROM set, or access to another index/transcription, might be able to find them?

[RonOne]

I don't know the mother's name, or when they were married

Marriages Sep 1875
GLASS Elizabeth Hedges - Salford 8d 153
PENDLER[sic] William Henshaw - Salford 8d 153
(Pendler is the surname on the GRO Index, Typewritten Image)

Same marriage from Lancashire BMD:
Marriages 1875
William H PENDER & Elizabeth Glass
Salford Register Office or Registrar Attended

[MaureeninNY]

For some reason it looks like they're under GUIDES!
Look for Joseph Twynham Guides on A*try.


Maureen

[RonOne]

Lancashire OPC has this:

Joseph Twining Pender bapt 19 Feb 1879 St Clement, Salford, son of William Henshaw Pender  (occupation: Joiner) & Elizabeth Hedges of 32 Hampden Street
(Twynham written under Twining)
 

Frances Elizabeth Pender bapt 24 Nov 1880 St Clement, Salford, daughter of William Henshaw Pender & Elizabeth Hedges of 20 Joule Street, William still a joiner

William Henshaw Pender bap 2 May 1883 at St Clement, Salford, son of William Henshaw Pender & Elizabeth Hedges still of 20 Joule Street, William still a joiner

[RonOne]

For some reason it looks like they're under GUIDES!
Look for Joseph Twynham Guides on A*try.


Maureen

Looks like them! Same address as the baptisms, 20 Joule Street, Salford:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XQ8H-RPL

[RonOne]

William died in 1886, and I have the three children with their grandmother in 1891

It would appear that Elizabeth Hedges Pender (nee Glass) then remarried:

Marriage: 24 Jan 1887 (after Banns) at St George, Hulme, Manchester, Lancashire
John Cheetham, aged 24, Bachelor, Waiter, 24 Dover St - Father: John Cheetham, Packer
Elizabeth Hedges Pender, aged 31, Widow, Tailoress, 24 Dover St - Father: Alexander Glass, Wood Turner
Witnesses: William Thomas Williamson & Esther Williamson

- Click here - for the parish register entry

[RonOne]

And the reason why the children are living with their grandmother in 1891 is probably:

Deaths Dec 1890
CHEETHAM Elizabeth Hedges - aged 35 - Salford 8d 102

[RonOne]

Births Sep 1887
CHEETHAM Edith Pender - Salford 8d 134

Edith Pender Cheetham
Baptised 17 Aug 1887 at St. Clement, Ordsall-in-Salford, Lancashire
Parents: John Cheetham & Elizabeth Hedges

Deaths Sep 1887
CHEETHAM Edith Pender - aged 0 - Salford 8d 131

[Forfarian]

Thank you both very much - that's much more than I could have hoped for. No wonder I was having trouble finding them.

PS The Genealogist did better than FamilySearch with the transcription of the 1881 census - they had the surname as Paider, but as their search does not cope with wildcards I was searching for either p* or pe* or pen* so naturally it failed to find the family. Using the Joule Street address worked perfectly. I can see why FamilySearch read it as Guides, however.