Jolly of Garboldisham

[Tricia G]

I'm not sure.  All my Jolly ancestors in Garboldisham claim to be master blacksmiths.  The 1841 census shows my 3 x Great Grandfather, John Jolly, living with his son Benjamin at Further Street, the 1851 census shows Benjamin (John had now died) at Church Farm and the 1861 census says Lower Street.  Do you know where the Forge or the Blacksmiths shop were?

Many thanks.  Tricia

[Idw]

I understood the Forge eventually became a garage, but it may not be there any more. I have not been to Garbaldisham myself - maybe one day I'll take a trip down from Yorkshire!

IDW 

[bugbear]

Here's the current "old forge"

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.402429,0.94837&num=1&t=h&z=19

http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/the-old-forge/manor-road/garboldisham/diss/ip22-2sg/11348768

But the garage is/was a different building:

http://www.francisfrith.com/garboldisham/photos/the-garage-c1955_G188027

Perhaps a bit of playing in google Street View would find it?

 BugBear

[bugbear]

Coupla' directories:

http://www.origins.org.uk/genuki/NFK/places/g/garboldisham/white1845.shtml

http://apling.freeservers.com/Villages/Garboldisham54.htm

Found this old post

http://boards.ancestry.ca/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=614&p=surnames.jolly

And this:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/a2a/records.aspx?cat=173-fb131&cid=-1#-1

Apprenticeship indenture  FB131/G1/19  22nd May 1801

Contents:
John Kealey, singleman, to John Jolly of Garboldisham, Norfolk, blacksmith

It appears from that page that there were a family of Blacksmiths called
"Jolly" over at Wortham nearby.

 BugBear

[Idw]

Re the  Jolly Blacksmiths of Garboldisham, there is a gravestone in St John the Baptist Church  of John Jolly who died in 1815 aged 73 years, and his wife Frances died 1837 age 65 both born round 1772. Does anyone know who they are? I have a picture of the gravestone and the dates are very clear.
I have  a John Jolly and wife Frances in my family tree -but John (c 1776) died in 1847 and Frances (c 1772) died in 1837 aged 65. John was a widower living with his son Benjamin in 1841.Is it likely that the dates on the gravestone are wrong and that these are in fact my John  and Frances?? 

IDW   

[berkeley]

           Have you seen this, http://www.rootschat.com/links/01gpz.
            Check out Jolly, there is also an email. Dave.

[Idw]

Thanks Berkeley. In fact, I submitted the information there .
IDW

[historyanne]

The Francis Frith postcard is almost certainly the Old Forge that I have a photo of, courtesy of the Norfolk Record office. It had the most elaborate chimneys, both on the house and the forge.
According to the 1881 census it was in Further Street Garboldisham. In the same census Charles Jolly was a Whitesmith in Back Street Garboldisham, and this is probably the 'Old Forge' on the googlemap.

My great, great grandfather Henry John Jolly was the blacksmith. I am descended from his son Youngman C Jolly who married Emily Collis of Aldeburgh and moved away from the area to Sheffield (where his son, my grandfather was born) and thence to Weston super Mare where he met and married my grandmother. My mother (Youngman's grand daughter) told me that seated Henry Jolly apparently looked a mighty man; standing he was quite small as he had very short legs.

I am intrigued by the name Youngman. The husband of the crime writer Margery Allingham was Philip Youngman Carter. They were Essex/Suffolk people. Was there a famous Youngman of the area?

The Cawthorn family were wheelwrights in Lower Street. By 1881 William Cawthorne was a tailor at the Royal Naval College, Greenwich. His daughter, Mary Matilda was my father's maternal grandmother. Odd that the two halves my family should have originated in the same Norfolk village.