Pt 7 :-) Lesanne's Sc Hunt ...........

[toni*]

did you manage to answer them all or are some outstanding?

the party went well, i think it helped Kim understand shes not the only one with wobbly legs, but i wish they had got OH food right - partly my fauly partly not

Charles Williams nephew aged 15 in 1871 thus born 1856 Berriew Montgomeryshire
what you want to establish is is he Charles Lloyd Williams?
what we need to do (i guess you already know)
is to find Charles in the census (other than 1871) and also hopefulyl the BMD index

Berriew features in Hepburns sc hunt

[toni*]

this appears to be Charles Williams birth
(the one aged 15 in 1871 nephew)

Births Mar 1875   
 
Williams  Charles Richard    Forden  11b 221   

 
Forden = reg area Berriew

checked Charles Williams 1875-1876 Mongomeryshire.

the one above is the only one

so he doesnt seem to be Charles Lloyd 

how old is Charles Lloyd?

no Charles Lloyd Williams b. reg in Forden at all 

[Lesanne]

Re: Lesanne's Scavenger Hunt
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 08 10:16 GMT (UK) »

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So this is the Turner family in Bray Berkshire in 1871.....

Charles Williams 15 Nephew Ag Lab born Montgomershire, Berriew

Frances Williams m. Thomas Turner
Frances Williams has a brother (or unmarried sister) who has a child Charles Williams c1856.
Frances  and Tom Turner have a daughter (Kate who marries Robert Norris) and they have a child Ethel G F Norris c1889.
Ethel is my Grandad's sister.
Ethel's f-i-l is 'Lloyd Charles' Williams (having married Ernest Walter Williams c1891 in 1914)
Is 'Charles Lloyd' WIlliams the child of Frances Williams sibling?
Richard Williams died 06.08.1878 aged 77 thus born 1801 (ish)
Richard Williams died in Berriew.
...................Added dates to above........

Where did Richard Williams originate ?
Where is Richard WIlliams in 1871 (and previous)
and the family above in 1881
What years are we talking about re Charles Williams
do we have Charles (Lloyd) in the BMD index or the Census

Walter Williams is Grandfather to Ernest Walter Williams

Could Walter and Richard be child/father or brothers?...

[Lesanne]

  Wooo Toni... have you family there.... 

[Lesanne]

Yes...Bingo.... 

1901 Hargrave Northampton. RG13 1453 fol66 pg7

Lloyd Charles Williams 45 Carter on Farm, Llandysyll ~ Montgomeryshire.
Mary Ann 45          Bucks Newport Pagnell.
William Albert 11   Northants Rushden
Ernest Walter 9    Middx Ealing

William Albert is witness at marriage of Ethel and Ernest in 1914.

Now to find him with his father Walter Williams.......... 

  3x panels of fence to do first and get over the shock of finding him.... 

[toni*]

Wooo Toni... have you family there.... 

confused
nope

Hepburn has family in Berriew or did have - have a look at her hunt they might match with yours you never know

Lloyd Charles not Charles Lloyd
b 1856ish

[toni*]

Births Dec 1854   
 
Williams  Lloyd    Atcham  6a 553   

Births Dec 1855   
 
Williams  Lloyd     Clun  6a 455


neither Atcham or Clun mention Llandysyll in their coverage area 

[toni*]

Yes...Bingo.... 

1901 Hargrave Northampton. RG13 1453 fol66 pg7

Lloyd Charles Williams 45 Carter on Farm, Llandysyll ~ Montgomeryshire.
Mary Ann 45          Bucks Newport Pagnell.
William Albert 11   Northants Rushden
Ernest Walter 9    Middx Ealing

William Albert is witness at marriage of Ethel and Ernest in 1914.

Now to find him with his father Walter Williams.......... 

  3x panels of fence to do first and get over the shock of finding him.... 

1901 is he Lloyd Chas up in Northants ? what was he doing there?
working i suppose
not just as a carter on far but On Horse too 

1891
RG12;  1029; 11;  16

Woodside Ealing
Lloyd C Williams head m 35 guardman b. Llandysyll ~ Montgomeryshire
Mary Ann wife 35 b. Newpot Pagnall Bucks
William A 1 b. rushdon Northants
 

[toni*]

Les i can't find a Llandysyll onthe map but ii have found a Llandysul, Llandyssil, Powys,
do you think they could be the same place

and i have not obviously spotted Lloyd Charles / Charles Lloyd prior to 1871 either
have you found Walter in eariler census cruically the 1861