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Small family Somerset
« on: Monday 31 December 12 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Please does anyone know of any connections to this family of Smalls in Somerset and if they are Romany, they seem settled...

Children of JOHN SMALL and GRACE ?????? are:

ELIZABETH6 SMALL, b. June 13, 1825, High Ham; d. September 7, 1851, High Ham.
HENRY SMALL, b. April 21, 1829, High Ham; d. December 8, 1835, High Ham.
TRYPHENA SMALL, b. February 12, 1831, High Ham.
AQUILLA SMALL, b. February 10, 1833, High Ham; d. February 12, 1834, High Ham.
ELLEN SMALL, b. September 21, 1834, High Ham; m. JAMES DERRICK.

AQUILA GRACE SMALL, b. 1836, High Ham; d. 1905.
GEORGE SMALL, b. 1839, High Ham.
HENRY SMALL, b. 1840, High Ham; d. July 10, 1901, High Ham.
EDITH SMALL, b. January 8, 1843, High Ham; d. July 2, 1843, High Ham.

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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #1 on: Monday 31 December 12 14:47 GMT (UK) »
I personally can see no Romany connection.

John SMALL Married Grace TILEY 28 October 1824, St Andrew, High Ham, Somerset
Witnesses, George Button/Samuel Drayton

John SMALL was Baptised 04 June 1797 same Church to THOMAS/AQUILA
(so his Mother is with them in 1851 born c 1772 Pitney)

THOMAS Small Married Aquila LAVIS 04 January 1797 same Church

Grace TILLY was Baptised 05 January 1803 same Church to JAMES/ANN

JAMES Tiley of Wedmore Parish Married Ann COOK, 28 Feb 1799 same Church

Source FreeREG, www.freereg.org.uk

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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #2 on: Monday 31 December 12 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Aquila LAVIS Baptised 19 Feb 1775, St John the Baptsit, Pitney, Somerset
Parents PHILLIP/BETTY

Phillip LAVIS Married Betty CULLIVERD, 22 Aug 1774 same Church

If you search on FreeREG for Baptisms/Deaths/Marriages of the Surname Small in High Ham, there are;
27 Burials 1785-1858
17 Marriages 1775-1836
(remember most Marriages took place in the Brides Parish so may be more elsewhere)
48 Baptisms 1766-1837

1841 Census THOMAS/AQUILA Small are in High Ham both down as born c 1775.
Thomas is an Ag Lab.
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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #3 on: Monday 31 December 12 15:34 GMT (UK) »
thats great thank you, Tryphena and Aquillia seemed quite unusual names which is why I wondered  :)


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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 01 January 13 09:10 GMT (UK) »
Tryphena is not that unusual.
If you search Familysearch.Org for Tryphena , no Surname, born c 1821-1841, England, there are hundreds of them.
There are also Aquillas both male/female.

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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 July 15 23:54 BST (UK) »
My grandfather Henry Small was born in Stathe  Somerset according to his marriage certificate
He had a brother George
I am trying to find his birth to take me back .Both Henry and George say their father was James on their Marriage Certificates but I have hit a brick wall Any help or pointers in the right direction would be appreciated.

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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 July 15 05:29 BST (UK) »
Hello Jack. As a Romany myself. I don't recognize the surnames. But I travelled mainly in the north and Midlands. But Olso down south. Occupations can help. And gypsy name's can go back centuries. So we know our family name's. In the traveller circles. Rob.
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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 July 15 13:26 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat darylresting,

Can you give us some dates please for Henry/ George.
When they were born and married ?.

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Re: Small family Somerset
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 11 July 15 15:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Trish 1120
Thank you for showing an interest.
Henry Small my grandfather was married in the Parish Church of Pawlett. July 1st 1890
to Harriet Hawkins he gives his age as 22 his father as James a Labourer
George Small married at the same Church May 6th 1886 to a Mary Ann Hucker age given as 20 father as James
Neither of the brothers could write.
I know where my grandfather is buried and found his Obituary in the local paper Nov 1936 said he was 67
Reading the bit about Traveling People coming from Ireland I wonder if this is the reason I am unable to trace his line back any further
daryl