TRAYNORs in Manchester and Pendleton

[EdwinReffell]

Can anyone give me any information on the maiden name of Mary who married Bernard TRAYNOR and was the mother of Rosanna born about 1839 in Manchester and of the following all born in Pendleton Edward about 1841, Mary about 1843, Bernard about 1847, John Henry about 1849, Thomas about 1851 and Ellen about 1853? I am trying to establish the birthplaces of the parents, who were born about 1820 somewhere in Ireland. Thank you for any information you give me.

[aghadowey]

As I explained on your other topic, the children's birth certificates will list mother's maiden name which will make it easier to start searching for the parents' marriage.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,631753.msg4795701.html#msg4795701

Once you have Mary's maiden name you can start by searching for the marriage in England (since it should show on FreeBMD if after 1837).

[CaroleW]

I was just about to post exactly the same suggestion (didn't know about prev topic)

Births June qtr 1846 
 
Bernard Traynor     Salford  20 981

[elzabels]

If I have picked up the correct 1881 census the area of birth in Ireland are shown
RG11 3967 99 7

The first child's birth is registered in the Deansgate area of Manchester on Lancashirebmd.org.uk this will show her mother's previous and maiden names....

I would think that the children were baptised in a 'non conformistchurch' i.e not CoE these registers are only just starting to be digitalized and being put on line

Certificates from www.gro.gov.uk

[EdwinReffell]

Thank you for your reply. I am doing this for an inlaw's cousin. He has cited from the 1881 census a Bernard and Mary TRAYNOR visiting AITKINs at 15 Lilla Street, Salford. Source:    FHL Film 1341947 but is unsure if they are his ancestors. It is  PRO Ref RG11    Piece 3967 Folio 99    Page 7. It says Bernard was born in Monaghan Co. Is that the one you have picked or is there another better one? In 1891 Bernard is a widow living with his son Thomas in Pendleton but there it says Bernard was born in Dublin not Monaghan Co. The problem is was he born in Monaghan Co or in Dublin and was he born in 1816, 1817 or 1821 as it says in the various censuses? He is not found in the 1901 or 1911 censuses but there is no death record for him either. Perhaps he returned to Ireland after 1881. I am most grateful for your help.

[CaroleW]

Which of the Traynor children is he descended from as that should determine whether you have the right family?

If it is the one quoted in your first post - then your relative needs to invest in a copy of one of the birth certs as recommended above and previously

[heywood]

Hello,

there is a death for a Bernard Traynor aged 67 yrs in 1891 Salford.
Given the discrepancies in age and that there doesn't look to be another candidate in 1891, it may be worth looking at this one.

regards
heywood

[heatherjulie]

Did John Henry Traynor born 1849 Salford go to America?
If so, his parents were Bernard Traynor and Mary Hoey
www.familysearch.org

Heather

[elzabels]

He has cited from the 1881 census a Bernard and Mary TRAYNOR visiting AITKINs at 15 Lilla Street, Salford. Source

Yes this is the same one!