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MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« on: Monday 28 January 13 03:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
just wondering if anyone has information on Sidney and Ellen Marshall who lived in Cleveland Tasmania
Sidney was a convict born 1828 in Yorkshire , Ellen was born around 1839 in Scotland. They had 11 children 6 girls 5 boys I know some names , seeking more info
thanks
Craig

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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 30 January 13 23:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi Craig,
Not sure if you have this already

Marshall, Sydney Frome
Convict No:  48090
Voyage Ship: Lady Kennaway (2)
Voyage No: 337
Arrival Date: 28 May 1851
Departure Date: 05 Feb 1851
Departure Port: Portsmouth

His convict records available on line on the below link.
http://www.linc.tas.gov.au/research/browse-by-category/familyhistory2

http://foundersandsurvivors.org/pubsearch/convict/chain/om3860

Trove the aussie newspapers are well worth a look at to
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/search?adv=y

Found these kids to Sidney and Ellen/Helen on a tree but I have my doubts about some of them. She would have been to old to have a kid in 1896. Maybe someone who has access to the Tassie BMD might be able to check.

Ellen McKenzie Marshall 1859-1955
Nellie Marshall 1862-
F Marshall 1863-
Margaret Marshall 1864-1942
Alexander Marshall 1865-1872
Frederick Marshall 1867-1872
Susan Ann Elizabeth Marshall 1869-1962
F Marshall 1871-
Francis Florence Marshall 1875-
Peter Sidney Marshall 1876-1962
M. Marshall 1879-
M. Marshall 1882-
John Oscar Marshall 1883-
Eric William Marshall 1896-1917

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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 31 January 13 01:35 GMT (UK) »


Examiner Tuesday 14 Oct 1913
.....Cleveland district. Mr Sydney Marshall....Thursday morning...85 years...arrived in the state from Halifax, Yorkshire, England, at an early age, bringing with him two thoroughbred horses imported by the late Hon. Thomas Reibey, with whom lie lived gt for some time at Hobart, but ,later settled in the Campbell Town district,..... 18 years caretaker and a member of  the Epping Presbyterian Church, until ill health failed him.

He leaves a widow and five sons, two of whom predeceased him some'years ago, six daughters, and 45 grand and great-grandchildren... Cleveland Cemetery. Rev. W. Gordon, M.A., officiated at the grave. The chief mourners were his sons and w grandsons. There were some beautiful p wreaths placed on the coffin, including F one from the teacher and pupils of the a local state school.

This would give three sons and six daughters alive in 1913.

Cornwall Chronicle 29 Jan 1872
..account of drowning of two sons of Sydney MARSHALL

Inquests 9 Jan 1872
Alex MARSHALL
Fred MARSHALL

Examiner 24 Nov 1917
KIA WWI Eric MARSHALL grandson of Mrs and late Mrs MARSHALL of Cleveland 20yrs.

Mercury 12 Dec 1903
marriage 12 Nov .....Sydney MARSHALL eldest son of Sydney MARSHALL, Epping..Jane Elizabeth SIGGINS eldest daughter of John Siggins, New Norfolk.

Examiner 25 Jun 1883
marriage 21 Ellen McKenzie MARSHALL... 2d/o Sydney Marshall of Epping....John William FLOOD eldest son of Henry Flood

Three sons and six daughters alive at 1913, plus two sons died 1872.







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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 31 January 13 05:03 GMT (UK) »
Sad story about the 2 little ones

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/66030506?searchTerm="sydney marshall"&searchLimits=exactPhrase=sydney+marshall


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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 31 January 13 08:00 GMT (UK) »
It looks like the last child on the list, Eric MARSHALL born 1896, was the illegitimate son of Jeanie MARSHALL.  Sidney had a daughter named Jeanie who married in 1914 to Harold HOLMES.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10391762

Debra  :)

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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 31 January 13 08:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi,  there are 9 confirmed births to this couple from 1862 to 1883
All born Campbelltown TAS   Four females  five males
Source: TAS BDM

 :)
Bronstein - Ukraine & Paris
Luscombe  - Devon & Australia
Horner -  Potterspury NorthHamptonshire & Warwickshire
Moss  -    Cumberland & Australia
Hadley -  Staffordshire
Higgins  - Somerset
Barras  -Durham
Piercy - Oxfordshire
Bauer -  Germany
Percy - Sussex
Felton - Northumberland
Parris -Dorset
Stier - Australia & Germany
La Zouche -UK
Holland -Lancashire
Segrave
Longaspee
Stanley - Lancashire
Goushill -Nottingshire
Mandeville - Essex
Fitz Allen - Sussex
Salmesbury - Lancashire
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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 31 January 13 23:42 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

1890-91, 1892-93 Tasmanian Post Office Directories.
EPPING FOREST
Marshall Sydney, labourer.

1896-97, 98, 99, 1903, 1904. Tasmanian Post Office Directories
CLEVELAND
Marshall Sydney, farmer.

An 1870 Hobart Town Gazette shows a Sydney Marshall was residing on 40 acres at Cleveland, the owner of the land must have died because the proprietor of the land is listed as D. R. Falkner, exec of the late!

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Gerry

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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #7 on: Friday 01 February 13 00:32 GMT (UK) »
England & Wales, Criminal Registers
Sidney Fromo Marshall, 16
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1829
Date of Trial: 8 Jul 1845 at Leeds Borough Sessions, Yorkshire
Accused of "counting house? breaking"
Sentence:   Imprisonment 12 months

England & Wales, Criminal Registers
Sidney Fromo Marshall, 20
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1827
Date of Trial: 20 Oct 1847 at West Riding Sessions, Knaresborough, Yorkshire - West Riding,
Crime: larceny (prior conviction for felony)

Australian Convict Transportation Registers:
Sidney Fromo MARSHALL
Convicted Date:   20 Oct 1847 at York Quarter Sessions, sentence: ten years
Voyage Date:   30 Jan 1851 per Lady Kennaway
Colony: Tasmania (Van Diemen's Land)

Death registration:
Tasmania, 1913, #0100, registered at Campbell Town, Tasmania
Sydney Marshall

Burial:
Sidney Marshall, 84, died 9 Oct 1913
Cemetery:   Cleveland Uniting Union Church, Campbell Town, Tasmania

Judith


   
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Re: MARSHALL Family in Tasmania
« Reply #8 on: Friday 01 February 13 01:00 GMT (UK) »
Marriage:
Tasmania 1861 #321 Registered Campbelltown
Sidney Frome MARSHALL
Helen MARSHALL

Seems a bit odd - no maiden name for the bride (although she may have had the same surname as him)

Burial
Helen Mckenzie MARSHALL, 83, died 30 May 1922
Cemetery:   Cleveland Uniting Union Church, Campbell Town, Tasmania

There is a baptism given for a Sidney MARSHALL in Halifax in 1836, with a birthdate of abt 1828.  However 1841 census has two boys of the same name, aged 10 (ages often rounded down in 1841) , listed as born Halifax.  This one has the same parents as those listed on the baptism record.
Living in Halifax
William Marshall   50, currier, (all born in Yorkshire)
Ann Marshall   50
Elizabeth Marshall   25
Fredrick Marshall   15
Sidney Marshall   10

And here's the other one, also living in Halifax, and all family born in Yorkshire
John Marshall   45 stuff pressing? (to do with wool trade I think!)
Mary Marshall   45
Elizabeth Marshall   15 staples wool
George Marshall   15
Mary Marshall   10
Sidney Marshall   10
Nancy Marshall   5

One of these is seen in later census entries so, obviously, he is not the convict man.  Unfortunately in 1851 the one who is still in Halifax is with an uncle so no clues there as to which of them it is.  >:( By co-incidence the one who stays in UK also marries an Ellen!)

Judith
DYER - Wilts, London, Somerset, MIDLANE - Hants, Wilts, SONE - Hants, WRIGHT - London, Hants, SEAGER - Deptford, DWYER, FERGUSON - Victoria, MASON - Woodford Vic, BALLARD - South Wales, GOULDBY - Lowestoft
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