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Tracing Roots in Breslau, Germany - Alternate Spellings?
« on: Monday 28 January 13 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Hi all,

I've tried searching ancestry, these forums, and http://www.breslau-wroclaw.de/de/breslau/forum/xforum.php for information pertaining to my grandmother's family.

Her name was Margaret Krisch, born Jan 8 1923 in Breslau. She lived there until fleeing to Western Germany.

Parents: Bruno & Hedwig Krisch (Bruno passed away in the 1940s)
Brothers: Hans and Rudy (Rudy passed away in the 1940s)
Sister: Nora Krisch (remained in Germany until her death in the 1990s - I think in Western Germany)

If anyone has any information on this surname, I'd greatly appreciate it. I've found numerous Kirsches - I've even found Bruno, Hedwig, Hans, and Margaret Kirsches in the 1941 Breslau Address book- but none of their addresses match.

Thank you!
Laryssa

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Re: Tracing Roots in Breslau, Germany - Alternate Spellings?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 18:39 GMT (UK) »
Hi Laryssa!
In 1919 Silesia (Schlesien) has been divided into two provinces: Lower Silesia (Niederschlesien) with the districts (Regierungsbezirke) Breslau and Liegnitz and Upper Silesia (Oberschlesien) beeing the former province Oppeln. The terms "lower" and "upper" refer to the main river of Silesia, the Oder.

In 1938 the province Silesia was divided into the following districts:
Regierungsbezirk Liegnitz
Regierungsbezirk Breslau
Regierungsbezirk Oppeln

After 1941 Regierungsbezirk Kattowitz consisted of 11 counties.
Areas that belonged to Silesia during the time from 1941 to. 1945
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SCI/gebiete1941-45-d.html
Overview Map of the Counties (Kreise)
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SCI/kreise-d.html

Note: The listed societies are volunteer organizations working with volunteers, and inquiries should be accompagnied by return postage, and if they are likely to occasion work, by a small fee.

Arbeitsgemeinschaft ostdeutscher Familienforscher e.V. (AGoFF)
AGoFF Forschungsstelle Schlesien
Neithard von Stein
Talstr. 3,
D-31707 Bad Eilsen, Germany

No commisioned research is done, only advice is given (free of charge for AGoFF members, and non members depending upon exspenses).

Church Records
Some of the church records from the former Prussian provinces on the eastern side of the Oder-Neisse-border (East Prussia, West Prussia, eastern Pommerian, Posen, Silesia, and the eastern portion of the Brandenburg) can be found at the Evangelisches Zentralarchiv in Berlin, Jebensstrasse 3, D-10623 Berlin. The archive will only answer simple inquiries and does not conduct research itself.

Civil Registration Records
Civil registers of births, marriages, and deaths were introduced in October 1874. The Civil registry office is called the Standesamt. Before this time, the Lutheran and Catholic churches records (1815-1874) or special Dissidenten-Register (1847-1874) served as official registers, and a duplicate copy was deposited at the local court (Amtsgericht). Most Standesamt (Polish: Urzed Stanu Cywilnego) records remained in the old offices and were taken over by the Polish authorities in the areas annexed by Poland in 1945. They are listed in the Gazetteer of Polish People's Republic Localities. The full title is SPIS MIEJSCOWOSCI POLSKIEJ RZECZYPOSPOLITEJ LUDOWEJ, published in Warsaw 1968, and on LDS microfilm #844,922. Standesamt records over 100 years old are archived in Polish State Archives (see Polish Archives below).

These groups are very helpful:
Note: They are volunteers!

Niederschlesien-L @genealogy.net
Oberschlesien-L @genealogy.net

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Re: Tracing Roots in Breslau, Germany - Alternate Spellings?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 20 March 13 19:21 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Laryssa and welcome to Rootschat
Krisch    Breslau  Schlesien,Preussen,Germany   found ONE tree
http://gw3.geneanet.org/pmlhennings?lang=en&m=N&v=KRISCH

this man only speaks German - but maybe if you sent him an e-mail a friend of his may be able to translate ?
good luck
allan
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Re: Tracing Roots in Breslau, Germany - Alternate Spellings?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 19 December 18 00:23 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find information re marriage of  Harri SCHMIDT and Kathe Hörstel  before 1940 in Baumschulenweg, Berlin.  Have found a Catharina Irma Olga Hörstel born Breslau in Eastern Prussian Provinces, 1874-1945 records.  Was she a relative of Kathe Hörstel?
A kind rootschat member recently sent me some details of Harri Schmidt, his Father named Philipp Schmidt, Mother, Wanda Schroder born 1895.  Can sks help further.
Kind regards
clancam37.
Hi Laryssa!
In 1919 Silesia (Schlesien) has been divided into two provinces: Lower Silesia (Niederschlesien) with the districts (Regierungsbezirke) Breslau and Liegnitz and Upper Silesia (Oberschlesien) beeing the former province Oppeln. The terms "lower" and "upper" refer to the main river of Silesia, the Oder.

In 1938 the province Silesia was divided into the following districts:
Regierungsbezirk Liegnitz
Regierungsbezirk Breslau
Regierungsbezirk Oppeln

After 1941 Regierungsbezirk Kattowitz consisted of 11 counties.
Areas that belonged to Silesia during the time from 1941 to. 1945
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SCI/gebiete1941-45-d.html
Overview Map of the Counties (Kreise)
http://www.genealogienetz.de/reg/SCI/kreise-d.html

Note: The listed societies are volunteer organizations working with volunteers, and inquiries should be accompagnied by return postage, and if they are likely to occasion work, by a small fee.

Arbeitsgemeinschaft ostdeutscher Familienforscher e.V. (AGoFF)
AGoFF Forschungsstelle Schlesien
Neithard von Stein
Talstr. 3,
D-31707 Bad Eilsen, Germany

No commisioned research is done, only advice is given (free of charge for AGoFF members, and non members depending upon exspenses).

Church Records
Some of the church records from the former Prussian provinces on the eastern side of the Oder-Neisse-border (East Prussia, West Prussia, eastern Pommerian, Posen, Silesia, and the eastern portion of the Brandenburg) can be found at the Evangelisches Zentralarchiv in Berlin, Jebensstrasse 3, D-10623 Berlin. The archive will only answer simple inquiries and does not conduct research itself.

Civil Registration Records
Civil registers of births, marriages, and deaths were introduced in October 1874. The Civil registry office is called the Standesamt. Before this time, the Lutheran and Catholic churches records (1815-1874) or special Dissidenten-Register (1847-1874) served as official registers, and a duplicate copy was deposited at the local court (Amtsgericht). Most Standesamt (Polish: Urzed Stanu Cywilnego) records remained in the old offices and were taken over by the Polish authorities in the areas annexed by Poland in 1945. They are listed in the Gazetteer of Polish People's Republic Localities. The full title is SPIS MIEJSCOWOSCI POLSKIEJ RZECZYPOSPOLITEJ LUDOWEJ, published in Warsaw 1968, and on LDS microfilm #844,922. Standesamt records over 100 years old are archived in Polish State Archives (see Polish Archives below).

These groups are very helpful:
Note: They are volunteers!

Niederschlesien-L @genealogy.net
Oberschlesien-L @genealogy.net


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Re: Tracing Roots in Breslau, Germany - Alternate Spellings?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 19 December 18 17:30 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find information re marriage of  Harri SCHMIDT and Kathe Hörstel  before 1940 in Baumschulenweg, Berlin.  Have found a Catharina Irma Olga Hörstel born Breslau in Eastern Prussian Provinces, 1874-1945 records.  Was she a relative of Kathe Hörstel?
A kind rootschat member recently sent me some details of Harri Schmidt, his Father named Philipp Schmidt, Mother, Wanda Schroder born 1895.  Can sks help further.
Kind regards
clancam37.

Hello clancam,

As I mentioned in your thread in November
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=803673.msg6618319#msg6618319
Käthe (with an Umlaut) is a short form for Katharine/Katharina.
Is it perhaps possible that Catharina and Käthe are one and the same person?

Best regards,
Karen
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