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Re: Thomas Francis Loft
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 14 December 13 06:20 GMT (UK) »
1911 census
The Cedars, Muswell Hill Place, Muswell Hill N
Thomas Francis Loft head 32 married Scavenger borough council b Yardley Birmingham
Sarah Jane Loft wife 31 Married 8 yrs, 3 children all living, b Muswell Hill
Charles William Loft son 7 b Muswell Hill*
Catherine Ann Loft dau 5 b Muswell Hill
Thomas Francis Loft son 2 b Muswell Hill

Baptism
Sarah Jane Blanche 8 Oct 1879 at Muswell Hill St James dau of Charles & Emma of Brickfield Cottages, labourer

You'll find the marriage of Charles Blanche in 1874 on www.freebmd.org.uk.

The full certificate shows
22 June 1874 at St Barnabas, Islington
Charles Blanche bachelor 23 labourer of 4 Campbell Row, father James Blanche labourer
Emma Green spinster 25 of 4 Campbell Row, father James Green labourer
Witnesses John Halifax & Ann Keetch

Have you checked the 1881 census at www.familysearch.org ? You'll find Thomas W Loft and son Thomas Loft in St Pancras. Despite what Thomas William Loft's occupation was shown as on Thomas Francis' marriage cert in 1902, I don't think he was a tailor. I think that's what the vicar thought he heard. In censuses and on the marriage cert of his daughter Christina or Christiana he gave his occupation as either plasterer or tiler. Tiler/tailor might sound very similar.

* See reply #27 where Ladyhawk gave you the probate details of Thomas Francis Loft sen where the two sons appearing in 1911 were executors. So putting deceased on Thomas Francis Loft jun's 1937 marriage cert was incorrect, as he didn't die until five years later. It's not the first time I've seen a father described as deceased when he was still alive.
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Re: Thomas f lofts stoke newington/islington
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 14 December 13 19:26 GMT (UK) »
That's great information,
Thanks a million for that.

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Re: Thomas Francis Loft
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 15 December 13 15:39 GMT (UK) »

Have you checked the 1881 census at www.familysearch.org ?
You'll find Thomas W Loft and son Thomas Loft in St Pancras.

Despite what Thomas William Loft's occupation was shown as on Thomas Francis' marriage cert in 1902, I don't think he was a tailor. I think that's what the vicar thought he heard.

In censuses and on the marriage cert of his daughter Christina or Christiana he gave his occupation as either plasterer or tiler. Tiler/tailor might sound very similar.


Marriage of Thomas William Loft born c1846 Rochester Kent occ  Plasterer

1 Jun 1874 St Michael Church Wood Green Haringey
Thomas William LOFT widower 29 Plasterer f John bricklayer
Annie FRASER 23 f George soldier
Witnesses Rebecca Loft & Ann Giffend

1851/61 census show Thomas Loft born c1850 Rochester with his parents & siblings
father John bricklayer mother Sophia
siblings Louisa, John, George, Ann, Frances, Rebecca & Phoeby

Thomas' first wife name is Mary see 1871 his occ Plaster unemployed
1871c https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VRFD-VT6
1869 bapt. of first child https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JM4Z-PVC
Ernest LOFT possible death Dec 1876 age 7 Medway Kent
Mary LOFT possible death Dec 1872 St Olave age 28

father John LOFT born 17 May bapt 18 Jun 1815 Rochester Kent
parents John & Ann

for info

from Thomas Francis LOFT WW1 Pension Records year 1915 Regt Coldstream Guards Regt No 18860, the dob of Thomas Francis & Sarah Jane’s children given as

Charles William 5 Dec 1903 Catherine Annie 28 Nov 1905 Thomas Francis 26 Oct 1908

baptism of Charles & Catherine

Charles William LOFT bapt 24 Jan 1904 St James Muswell Hill
Parents Thomas Francis occ labourer & Sarah Jane Address 3 Place Terrace
Charles marries Mabel Clara Newnam (she died 1973) Sep qtr. 1925 Barnet Middx
Charles died age 54 Jun 1958 Hendon Middx Vol 5e pag 488

Catherine Annie LOFT bapt 28 Jan 1906 St James Muswell Hill
Parents Thomas Francis occ Labourer & Sarah Jane Address 3 Home Cottages
Catherine married Jun qtr. 1925 Edmonton Middx
Catherine Annie SEABROOK born 28 Nov 1905 Died age 68 Jun 1874 Bromley Kent  Vol 11 page 1130