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Lost Warner Children
« on: Friday 08 February 13 17:02 GMT (UK) »
The 1891 census shows my great grandparents living in Aston Birmingham, both working. There are no children listed as living with them and there should be at least 3 possibly 4. So where could the children of William and Amelia be hiding? Any ideas anyone? They all appear to be together in 1901.
Pettifer - Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Walker and Warner - Warwickshire
Moore - Worcestershire
Carveley - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 February 13 17:07 GMT (UK) »
You don't tell us much about the family or its circumstances, or how old the children would have been, but very generally missing children might be (in no particular order):

With grandparents
With aunts/uncles/family friends
With a foster parent as a "nurse child"
In service with other families or on e.g. farms
At boarding school
In hospital
In reformatories/approved schools
(For boys) In the Navy or Army depending on age
Inadvertently missed off the census if an error was made in completing the household schedule or by the enumerator in transferring the information to the summary schedules, or if a census page has been lost.

No doubt there are other possibilities I haven't covered.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 February 13 17:43 GMT (UK) »
Looking at an old thread of yours it looks as though Amelia was born in Cambridge as Amelia Jane Carveley marrying William Warner in Aston, Dec qtr 1883.

Is the 1901 census you have for them in Vine Terrace, Aston Manor with children William 15, Albert 13, Elsie 12, Charles 10 and Leo 8? RG13/2888/131/28.

If so then in 1891 they seem to be enumerated at the same address with the four eldest children present and correct: RG12/2436/4/2.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 February 13 19:21 GMT (UK) »
When I look up the 1891 census I get RG12/2430 and there's only the parents on it.
Pettifer - Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
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Moore - Worcestershire
Carveley - Cambridgeshire


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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 February 13 19:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Delver

AVM has used another database and supplied the correct reference number, the couple you mention are William J aged 28 and Amelia H aged 26 Warner, not William aged 36 & Amelia Jane aged 32.

Hope this helps.
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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 February 13 20:40 GMT (UK) »
Aaaargh now I remember why I only do family history research every few years - because it drives me insane.

How come there's more than one flippin database anyway?

Pettifer - Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Walker and Warner - Warwickshire
Moore - Worcestershire
Carveley - Cambridgeshire

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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 February 13 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Money, I expect. The National Archives makes the information available to those who want to buy it who then charge us lots in subscriptions so we can do our trees  ;D
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Longhurst-Ealing & Capel, Abinger, Ewhurst & Ockley,
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Re: Lost Warner Children
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 09 February 13 08:55 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for your help all.
Pettifer - Gloucestershire, Oxfordshire, Warwickshire
Walker and Warner - Warwickshire
Moore - Worcestershire
Carveley - Cambridgeshire