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Georgina BARCLAY
« on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:00 GMT (UK) »
I live in New Zealand & I am researching 2 branches of my paternal ancestors... SMITH & BARCLAY of Fifeshire. John SMITH (b.1823 Strathmiglo Parish, Fife) m Georgina BARCLAY (b.abt 1832 Balgonie, Fife or Perthshire?) Marriage date: 5 Apr 1854, Dunbog, Fife. I am having difficulty finding a birth/baptism record for Georgina & also who her parents were. John & Georgina emigrated to NZ in 1859 to Canterbury on the 'Oriental'. It appears that they had 2 children, Jane (b.1855) & Andrew (b.1857) in Scotland, then 3 chn in NZ: Christina Isdale (b.1859 & my paternal g grandmother); Georgina Barclay (b. 1861) & William (b. abt 1875?).
Can anyone help me with ideas to find Georgina's birth details & parents? A Scotlands People website search hasn't located her. 

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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pufflet

I am sure you have this but just including this 1841 census entry for background:

David Barclay 26, farmer (FreeCen here http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl show David as 20 not 26).
Janet Barclay 20
Elizabeth Barclay 10
Georgina Barclay 9
Margaret Robertson 20 servant
Helen Burell 21 servant

Address: Balgonie, Abernethy, Perthshire

Relationships within the household were not shown on the 1841 census, so hard to say how they connect to each other.

Have you found Georgina in 1851? Struggling to find her on the transcript so far for that year...

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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:42 GMT (UK) »
Wonder if this is connected ?
Scotlandspeople Wills and Testaments has Andrew Barclay dated 31/12/1841 tenant in Balgonie Parish of Abernethy.

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Added - think Georgina is noted as 52 on her death in New Zealand in 1890 but that would seem to be a bit young for a 1854 marriage  :-\
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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 February 13 09:54 GMT (UK) »
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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 09 February 13 10:15 GMT (UK) »
Hi Ev

Does look like it may connect to that 1841 entry doesn't it.

A couple more children showing to this Andrew Barclay:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ7F-HRF
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VQ7X-TQL

These look to be all around the early to mid 1820s. Can't see anything as yet for the Elizabeth and Georgina who show in 1841.

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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 09 February 13 11:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi Monica ,

There is an Elisabeth Barclay 20 niece at Dunbog Fife in 1851(born Perth , Perth).
Head of household George Barclay farmer age 60 born Kemback Fife

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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 09 February 13 11:47 GMT (UK) »
Elizabeth Barclay may have married John Mitchell
1881 Fliskmiln Farm House Flisk Fife
John Mitchell 53 farmer b. Cupar Fife
Elizabeth B Mitchell wife 51 b. Abernethy Perth

Lots of children including -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYBX-32W

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Added - Scotlandspeople has a marriage John Mitchell / Elisabeth Barclay 1856 Dunbog Fife
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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 February 13 07:16 GMT (UK) »
Great to get some replies so quickly! I have the 1841 Scotland Census entry for David BARCLAY & family, including a Georgina. The entry has some possible transcription errors as Janet BARCLAY's age is stated as 20 & her 2 daughters 10 & 9 which would mean she had them when she was about 10! Or the other possibility is that David & Janet are siblings of Georgina & Elisabeth, not parents? 
I can't find them in the 1851 Census.
I also have the Elisabeth BARCLAY m John MITCHELL info. Their marriage record has her parents as Andrew BARCLAY & Jean RITCHIE. But I can't find a  dau. Georgina connected to Andrew & Jean BARCLAY. There appear to be 3 farms involving SMITHs (Balmeadie/ow Farm, Dunbog), BARCLAYs (Johnstone Farm, Dunbog) & MITCHELLs (Fliskmiln Farm, Flisk). There are Barclays at all 3 in the 1851 & 1861 Censuses but no Georgina! 

Georgina's age on her NZ Death Cert. may not have been correct. She died in Sunnyside Psychiatric Hospital, Christchurch following a number of epileptic seizures in 1890. I have written to the Canterbury Health Bd to see how I can access her medical record. 

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Re: Georgina BARCLAY
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 February 13 08:02 GMT (UK) »
My thoughts are that Georgina and Elisabeth were sisters(although there is no proof of this so far).
It might be worth looking at that 1841 Will for Andrew Barclay as it may mention his children  :-\
(10 credits for 8 pages)

I think Andrew Barclay is the son of David Barclay and Catherine Nicol.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XBJZ-8Q8

Andrew Barclay and George Barclay(Elisabeth's uncle on the 1851 Census) both had daughters called Catherine Nicol Barclay.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY8F-Y7H

There are other baptisms at Kemback for a David Barclay and Catherine Nicol -
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYCT-4FX
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XY8F-BWY

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