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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 February 13 22:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,
Just in response to your query about Pentridge/Coburg. Yes, they are the same area.  This link may interest you.

http://www.moreland.vic.gov.au/moreland-libraries/services/local-history/history-coburg-pascoe-vale.html

Here is another death of a son listed above by Raylen

LANDELLS Wm Geo
Father Landells Jas Douglas
Mother Sarah  SINGLETON
Death Place COBURG
Age 72
Year 1943
Reg Number 10889

The son John Dallawal Landells is interesting.
(see above birth listed above per Raylen)
I have not yet located his death but did note this death.

John Dalliwell Landells
Age 33
Father's Name William Burn
Mother's Name Sarah Richardson
Registration Year   1875
Registration Place   Victoria
Reg  10697
 
This is 3 years before JAMES LANDELLS and SARAH named thir child very similarly

There are a couple of other deaths to chilldren of WILLIAM BURN LANDELLS and SARAH RICHARDSON and also the death of WILLIAM BURN LANDELLS all in Victoria.

I wonder if you know of a family conection which is hinted at in the naming. ???

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 21 February 13 00:00 GMT (UK) »
A couple of marriages

LANDELLS Jane (Dunolly)
McNAUGHTON Angus (Scotland)
1883 Reg#992

LANDELLS Grace Douglas
WALLER Herbert Malcolm
1921 Reg#9648

LANDELLS Mary Margt (Coburg)
BROWN Jas Habick (Rmond)
1884 Reg#6395

LANDELLS Annie Ada (Coburg)
GOODALL Fred (Leeds)
1896 Reg#3125

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 21 February 13 06:06 GMT (UK) »
Marriage for James and Sarah

1858 Victoria, #4370
James Douglas LANDELLS m Sarah SINGLETON

Edit to add - not sure about the death below.  See the TROVE funeral notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9558854
Adding again - the TROVE funeral notice is for the wife of W G LANDELLS so it would be for Louisa as found by Raylen, below


I think this is Sarah's death, because of the place of death.  There is another LANDELLS family in Geelong at the same time with some of the same names - perhaps related?

Victoria 1900 #12403
Sarah LANDELLS, 56
Died at Coburg, Victoria

Judith
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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 21 February 13 06:30 GMT (UK) »
As I said - there are two LANDELL families in Victoria at about the same time, perhaps related, but separate.

John Dalliwell LANDELLS is the son of the Geelong LANDELL family - Rev William Burns LANDELLS and his wife Sarah RICHARDSON

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5841103
LANDELLS—FORD.—On the 17th inst., at the residence of the bride's father, Punt road, South Yarra, by the Rev. Geo. Tait, John Dalliwell Landells, oldest surviving son of the late Rev. W. B, Landells, Geelong, 
to Isabel Mary Ford, eldest daughter of Mr. Wm Ford of this city.

John Dalliwell LANDELLS died in 1875
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/7421529

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 21 February 13 09:49 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sue, Raylen and Judith
Thanks ever so much for that extra information.

Re the two Johns:
I think, but can't yet prove conclusively, that William Burns Landells and Adam Landells are brothers. Adam also had a son, who died on the journey to Australia, called William Burn Landells, and I originally thought the William Burns mentioned in newspaper reports was another son born in Australia and given the same name, until I came across further details. Both Adam and William Burns were Non-Conformist Ministers at some point, and both were born, as far as I can tell, in Alnwick, Northumberland, around the early 1800s.

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 February 13 10:50 GMT (UK) »
Follow up on Judiths finding

LANDELLS Sarah
Father: Unknown
Mother: Unknown UNKNOWN
Age 56
Death Place Coburg
Year 1900
Reg. Number 12403

Sarah Landells aged 56   at Coburg Cemetery METHODIST: Compartment: A

Also

David Henry Landells aged 66   at Coburg Cemetery METHODIST: Compartment: A Grave No: 338.  30/5/1940

Isabella Callan aged 83   at Coburg Cemetery METHODIST: Compartment: A Grave No: 338. 23/7/1919

Fanny Shalliker aged 78   at Coburg Cemetery METHODIST: Compartment: A Grave No: 338. 9/2/1953


(DAVID HENRY was a son of SARAH (Singleton) & JAMES DOUGLAS LANDELLS.)

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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 21 February 13 10:57 GMT (UK) »
Marriage for James and Sarah

1858 Victoria, #4370
James Douglas LANDELLS m Sarah SINGLETON

Edit to add - not sure about the death below.  See the TROVE funeral notice
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/9558854


I think this is Sarah's death, because of the place of death.  There is another LANDELLS family in Geelong at the same time with some of the same names - perhaps related?

Victoria 1900 #12403
Sarah LANDELLS, 56
Died at Coburg, Victoria

Judith

Judith,

I think you have the correct death for Sarah.  :D
Sarah LANDELLS
Buried at Coburg Cemetery Meth*A*338 (with her son - as listed by Sue above)
Date of death 9/10/1900
( not with James Douglas who is in Meth*A*457 - same cemetery)

LANDELLS Louisa Evelyn (nee Oates)
died 6/10/1900 is the first wife of
William George Landells. Son of Sarah and James.
She is buried at Coburg Cemetry COE*P*681
William George is buried with his 2nd wife Ada May(nee Cook)
at Coburg Cemetery Meth*B*287

Hope that makes sense.   ::)

Raylen





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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 21 February 13 12:00 GMT (UK) »
Heavens, what a week for the Landells family -  two trips to Coburg cemetery.  The funeral notice is for Louisa as it is for the wife of W. LANDELLS. 

I can't see George's arrival.  Where did George come from? Alnwick also? Judith
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Re: Edward George LANDELLS - whose son is he?
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 07 September 13 10:56 BST (UK) »
Hi Geordie
I noticed you were wondering who's son Edward George Landells is. I can answer that for you,  Edward is my grand Uncle and his Father is James Douglas Landells and his mother is Sarah Singleton.  James brother Edward (also known as Edward Landells Douglas) who went on to New Zealand and married the Maori woman (whom you mentioned) whose name is Korowhiti Terangi Tuataka is my great grandfather.  Their son Joseph Hikawharawhara Douglas is my mother's Dad and was killed in 1926 when my mother was 6 months old.
From what I know from my mother's family Adam James Douglas Landells and Edward George Landells were twins.  I actually have them down on our family records.  They were born on 24 March 1876 in Coburg, Victoria.
The Landells family originally came from Scotland.  James emigrated on to Australia and ended up in Victoria and settled in the Coburg area.  James Douglas Landells Father was Adam Landells who married Margaret Douglas on 9th March 1832 in Scotland although he was actually born in Alnwick, Northumberland in England.  Some of Adam's descendents took the name Douglas instead of Landells after Margaret.
My GGG Grandfather James Landells (or Edward's Grandfather) on our records his wife is Grace Scot but some new records have come to light recently that have thrown some doubt on whether this is correct.  We have since found a record stating that his wife's name was Jane Burn.  We know that one of Adam and Margaret's children was named William Burn Landells which seems to fit with this latest revelation on James' wife.  We are now thinking that perhaps Grace and Jane may be one in the same but need to do more research to be sure.
I hope this small piece of information has been helpful to you and has shed some light on your question about Edwards Parents.