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Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« on: Tuesday 12 February 13 22:07 GMT (UK) »
Hi folks, apologies as i am a new user, but this is driving me nuts....

I have been researching the Walls family in the Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan area, and have hit a major brick wall with Valentine Whall (walls) b abt 1700, d 1774 and his brother Robert Whall (Walls) b abt 1710 d 1774.

I have traced 90% of the family from 1700 to the present day, as well as others in Australia (NSW), and Durham (UK) (so if anyone needs some assistance with their own research then i am only too glad to help.

Valentine and Robert are the earliest members found, but there the trail grows cold. I have no birth records (even though both are mentioned in the Blackrod St.Katherines register, one of the oldest registers in the region)

But no christening/baptism record for either brother....So as far as i can tell they weren't from Wigan/Aspull/Blackrod originally.

Has anyone else on roots chat been researching a Whall/Walls/Wolles/ line somewhere else in the region that may help with this, as i have spent the last 3 years just on this one question

If i have to go through DNA testing comparison to other Walls lines, then so be it

Hope someone can help, or point me in the right direction




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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Have you seen a possible marriage at St Peter Bolton le Moors to Alice Orrell 6.4.1724?
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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 11:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Prouty & welcome to Rootschat,

Have you come across the following website: -

http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/l/a/Carole-A-Slattery/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html

There's a Valentine but born 1728 but no sign of Robert.

Best wishes

Maria  :)
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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Is this the death record that you have?

Burial: 13 Apr 1774 St Katharine, Blackrod, Lancashire, England
Valentine Whalls -
Abode: Blackrod

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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 12:03 GMT (UK) »
Is this another family member?

Burial: 29 Jan 1780 St Wilfrid, Standish, Lancashire, England
Valentine Walls -
Abode: Blackrod
Buried by: Richard Perryn, Rector

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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 12:15 GMT (UK) »
Have you ruled this one out?

Valenidinus Waltz christened 5th february 1695 KATHOLISCH,HOCHMOSSINGEN,SCHWARZWALDKREIS,WUERTTEMBERG
Parents Ignatius Waltz, Adelhaid Holtzer

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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 13:03 GMT (UK) »
Blackrod,St Katherine
5th March 1655
William son of William Whalel
buried
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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 13:06 GMT (UK) »
11th November 1667
Henrie son of William Whale
St Katherine,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Valentine Walls (Blackrod/Aspull/Wigan) where did you come from ?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 13 February 13 13:10 GMT (UK) »
The Alles  Walles that is buried wife of Valentine
13th May 1749 ,Blackrod

is she the wife of the Valentine you are ,looking for a baptism,?
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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