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Henry Amps
« on: Wednesday 06 March 13 11:59 GMT (UK) »
Hello, looking for the bapt/parents of Henry Hamps/Amps about 1806, Warboys.???
very many thanks.Margaret.

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Re: Henry Amps
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 May 14 16:17 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I also have Henry, sadly no parents details, died Jan 1890, married to Rebecca Grange in 1836 and went on to have Jane in 1833, Henry 1840 and William in 1845...Does this help at all?

Marriage was 25/7/1836, if you can get a copy of the certificate you should get your answer.

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Re: Henry Amps
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 May 14 17:36 BST (UK) »
Maybe? 
There is a tree on Ancestry that says
Henry Amps
Born 1806 Huntingdonshire
Died 1890 Cambridgeshire
Parents Henry Amps and Mary Gadsby

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Re: Henry Amps
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 May 14 07:25 BST (UK) »

Marriage was 25/7/1836, if you can get a copy of the certificate you should get your answer.


Marriage certs didn't start until 1837. In 1836 all you have is the marriage entry in the parish register, where fathers' names aren't shown. All you get are the names of the witnesses.


There is a tree on Ancestry that says
Henry Amps
Born 1806 Huntingdonshire
Died 1890 Cambridgeshire
Parents Henry Amps and Mary Gadsby
I always take Ancestry trees with copious amounts of salt.
The marriage between Henry Amps and Mary Gadsby was in Godmanchester Hunts in 1798. Whether these are the parents of Henry born in Warboys remains to be established. Warboys parish register might contain the answer. A Henry Amps aged 70 was buried in Warboys in 1843. But there's also a marriage of Henry Amps and Mary Smith in Warboys in 1803 who look more likely to be the the parents of Henry b 1806. He wasn't described as a widower, which doesn't mean that he wasn't, given there's a burial of Mary Amps in Godmanchester in 1802 - no age is given so you need to check the parish register to see if she was described as wife of Henry. But as any baptism for a Henry in 1806 in Warboys is likely to state ...son of Henry and Mary Amps you would still need to sort out which Mary she was - Gadsby or Smith.
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell


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Re: Henry Amps
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 June 14 19:20 BST (UK) »
There is a tree on ancestry that states
Henry Amps 1806/1890 parents Henry Amps and Mary Gadesby.  If these are the right parents then they were married 21/12/1798 in Godmancester Hunts. The 1841 census for Henry and Rebecca is transcribed as Amiss


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Re: Henry Amps
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 15 June 14 10:20 BST (UK) »
Any tree on Ancestry should be treated as unreliable, particularly when, as in this case, no baptism is shown and the birth is "about 1806" at Warboys. In other words it's pure guesswork as to who his parents were in the absence of his baptism. Yes, the chances are that he was the son of Henry and Mary. But which Mary is the whole point here. There are two marriages of a Henry Amps to a Mary at about the right time in about the right place. The tree shows Mary Amps' birthplace as Godmanchester yet the 1851 census shows it as Warboys, pointing to her possibly being the Mary Smith who married Henry Amps in Warboys in 1803, rather than Mary Gadsby who married Henry Amps in Godmanchester in 1798.

There is only one Amps baptism in Godmanchester - Mary dau of Henry and Mary on 6 Dec 1801. Did this family then move to Warboys, 8 miles away, where one or other of the Marys may have died and was buried in 1802? If it was the mother did Henry remarry the following year?

As I said before when you suggested the Godmanchester marriage, it needs reference to Warboys and Godmanchester parish registers to try to separate the two Marys. And Ancestry trees won't provide the answer

David
Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey/Rook
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey/Rook
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:   Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs: Bourn: Bowd
            Eltisley: Medlock
            Graveley: Ford/Revell