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Offline BobtheBee

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Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« on: Monday 06 June 05 12:44 BST (UK) »
Hi,

I'm looking for 1871 or other information on an Ellen Davis born June 1866 in Northleach Gloucester. In 1881 she was living with her Aunt in Nottingham (Hannah Higgins nee Dix) & Hannah's daughter Mary Dix also born Northleach.

Any help would be appreciated.

Bob
Scotland - Blaikie, Carr, Jamieson, Alexander, Chisholm
Nottinghamshire - Smith, Gabb, Simpson, Dyer
Gloucestershire - Gabb, Davies
Norfolk - Nelson
Northumberland/Durham - Davison, Scott
Wales - Shaw
USA - Pratt
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 18:36 BST (UK) »
Found this slightly strange entry in 1871 which may help :-\


East Side, Northleach

Henry Higgins  1834  Northleach, Gloucestershire,  Head Agricultural Lab 
Hannah Higgins 1826  Dowdeswell, Gloucestershire,  Wife     
Charlotte Dix 1848  Northleach, Gloucestershire,Wife's Daur Washerwoman 
Ralph Dix 1856  Northleach, Gloucestershire, Wifes Son
Ellen Dix 1864  Northleach, Gloucestershire,  Daur Of Wife     
 
 RG10/2650  Northleach Folio 39 Page 20

Could this be your Ellen or are there 2 Ellen's knocking around?
Tricia


 
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi

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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 June 05 23:06 BST (UK) »
Hi Tricia,

I've seen the 1871 at http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/GLS/CensusRecords/Northleach/northleach71.html
where similar information is given but slightly different:-

108

HIGGINS Henry 37 Ag Lab Northleach

Hannah 45 Dowdeswell

DIX Charlotte Wife's Daughter 23 Washerwoman Northleach

Ralph Wife's Son 15 Ag Lab Northleach

Ellen 7 Wifes Son Scholar North Leach

I can find no other Ellen, but don't understand why on the 1881 Ellen is Ellen Davis Niece if she was in fact a daughter. I've found an Ellen Davis birth registered in Gloucester in !866, but there are only 2 Ellen Dix's registered between 1864 & 1865 and neither of those was anywhere near Gloucester, so I'm a bit stymied.

Bob.
Scotland - Blaikie, Carr, Jamieson, Alexander, Chisholm
Nottinghamshire - Smith, Gabb, Simpson, Dyer
Gloucestershire - Gabb, Davies
Norfolk - Nelson
Northumberland/Durham - Davison, Scott
Wales - Shaw
USA - Pratt
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 June 05 09:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Bob,

Was the Ellen Davis birth you found registered in Northleach?

Have you found your girl on any other census?  Where did you get her details from? Do you definitely know that she is related to this Hannah Higgins. Are the Higgins and the Dix family in your tree?

Where did you find those births for Ellen Dix - 1837 or elsewhere?

If all else fails it may be worthwhile applying directly to Register Office for 1865/6 for Ellen Davis, Northleach and see if they find anything(Northleach now registers between Cheltenham and Circencester)

Sorry it sounds like 20 questions - just trying to get the  picture :)

Tricia
Census transcriptions are Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi


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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 June 05 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Tricia,

The Ellen Davis I found was registered at Gloucester and this was on BMDIndex. The 2 Ellen Dix's I found were in AMJ 1864, one at Methyr Tydfil 11a 358, and t'other at Stafford 6b 15.

Ellen Davis is my cousins Grandmother. Her death certificate give her name as Ellen Elizabeth Louisa Simpson died 1850, age 86.

On the 1901, her PoB is Nottingham, on the 1891 its Cheltenham. A copy of the marriage certificate obtained in 1921 when husband Arthur was killed in a mining accident states she married in July 1886 aged 22, but gave no fathers name.

A search for Ellen Davis in the 1881 on FamilyHistoryOnline produces Elizabeth Ellen Davis aged 17, but from a seemingly well to do family in Nottingham, (they have a servant) and Ellen Davis aged 16, listed as the niece of Hannah Higgins & born in Northleach. Mary Dix (Dau) aged 23 & Ernest Dix Grandson are also listed.

Just so you know, the 1891 list the family as Amper, but when you see the original, & know who you are looking for, its the Simpsons.

I think that covers everything.

Bob.
Scotland - Blaikie, Carr, Jamieson, Alexander, Chisholm
Nottinghamshire - Smith, Gabb, Simpson, Dyer
Gloucestershire - Gabb, Davies
Norfolk - Nelson
Northumberland/Durham - Davison, Scott
Wales - Shaw
USA - Pratt
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives

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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 June 05 13:08 BST (UK) »
From freebmd:

Birth Ellen Elizabeth Louisa DAVIES, MAR Q 1864, Cheltenham Ref: 6a 434

kind regards, Arranroots

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Re: Ellen Davis Gloucester 1871 lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 June 05 14:33 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much Arranroots,

Thats very true, but as you know the trick is knowing just which little bit in all the bits you're staring at is the key!

Your post can turn into a long, boring essay, so perhaps its best to get people interested, and to start asking specific questions, like I want to know MORE.

Yet again a change or mis-transcription unlocks the treasure chest.

Regards Bob.
Scotland - Blaikie, Carr, Jamieson, Alexander, Chisholm
Nottinghamshire - Smith, Gabb, Simpson, Dyer
Gloucestershire - Gabb, Davies
Norfolk - Nelson
Northumberland/Durham - Davison, Scott
Wales - Shaw
USA - Pratt
Census Transcriptions are Crown Copyright from National Archives