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S S Guards
« on: Wednesday 13 March 13 15:17 GMT (UK) »
Hi

On a marriage certificate of 1841 in Lambeth I have found the occupation of the  groom as "Sargent in the S.S. Guards"  can anyone shed some light onto what the S S Guards could have been, on the 1851 census he was a Chelsea Pensioner aged 39, I take it he was wounded in a war, any idea what war this might have been between 1841 and 1851.

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Re: S S Guards
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 13 March 13 15:41 GMT (UK) »
If you post his name we can try to find him in the army pension records
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Re: S S Guards
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 March 13 08:45 GMT (UK) »
Enlistment was 'unlimited', ie for life. Men could be discharged to pension at any time 'no longer physically fit'. So it did not require a war. Of the remainder after about 21 years men were given a medical and most were discharged to pension then.

The rank was usually spelt serjeant in this period. So 'SS Guards' may be another mistake.

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Re: S S Guards
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 March 13 09:24 GMT (UK) »
Scots guards would likely be the regiment, not sure about the s s could be a mistake and just meant to be one s
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Re: S S Guards
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 March 13 10:43 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: madmurph on Thursday 14 March 13 09:24 GMT (UK)
Scots guards would likely be the regiment, not sure about the s s could be a mistake and just meant to be one s

In the period in question, their title was the Scots Fusilier Guards (shortened to Scots Guards in 1877), so S F Guards maybe?
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 March 13 12:02 GMT (UK) »
Scots Guards were never known as anything other than Scots Guards, I have just checked with my husband who is Coldstream Guards, just had a quick history lesson for my trouble lol
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 March 13 12:24 GMT (UK) »
 See http://www.scotsguards.co.uk/history1.htm

"1831 Shortly after his Accession King Wi!liam restored to the
Regiment its Scottish title, and the Third Guards became Scots Fusilier Guards...."

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Re: S S Guards
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 March 13 12:44 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: madmurph on Thursday 14 March 13 12:02 GMT (UK)
Scots Guards were never known as anything other than Scots Guards, I have just checked with my husband who is Coldstream Guards, just had a quick history lesson for my trouble lol
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Sorry Alison, but that's just plain wrong despite what your husband says. Check Shaun's link to the Scots Guards Association.
1831-77 they are the Scots Fusilier Guards
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 March 13 20:06 GMT (UK) »
Ok I'm corrected, I was only trying to be helpful, as my husband is Coldstream guards there is a lot of rivalry
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