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Where is Gewin?
« on: Sunday 17 March 13 11:09 GMT (UK) »
Trying to find where Gewin is in Scotland. William Fleming c.1786 , 1851 census, Bolton le moors, Lancashire,England is described as from Gewin, Scotland. Although this is the transcription and I am not sure if it is correct.
Can anyone enlighten me? :D
Rigby-Lathom, Freckleton,
Singleton-Fylde
Moss-Rufford
Johnson-Tarleton
Hull-Tarleton, Fylde
French-Abram,Rainford
Blake-Upton in Cheshire
Bolas-Shropshire
Butler- Greenhalgh, Lancs
Harrison - Garstang, Lancs

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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 17 March 13 11:53 GMT (UK) »
I thought it might be Girvan in Ayrshire (spelt as heard, Gervin?). I have attached a snippet from that 1851 entry below so others can have a look.
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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 17 March 13 12:01 GMT (UK) »
I think this enumerator seemed to like to give more specific places of births rather than just for example Scotland or Scotland, Ayrshire.

If you look at page 58, there is Scotland, Glasgow (in Lanarkshire)
Page 59, Scotland, Annan (in Dumfrieshire).
Then your entry for William Fleming on page 60, HO107/2211/495/60.

Some hope then that Gervin is Girvan in Ayrshire.

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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 17 March 13 12:18 GMT (UK) »
The handwriting is reasonably legible - see attached extract - and I can't disagree with the transcription. It may or may not be correct. Could it possibly be a mistranscription of a misspelling of Govan?

The 1851 census gives his age as 65. If this age is accurate it would mean he was born in 1785 or 1786.

The 1841 census gives his age as 50. As adults' ages in 1841 were (supposed to be) rounded down to the nearest 5 years, this means that he could have been any age from 50 to 54, and if this age is accurate this would mean he was born between 1786 and 1791.

Have you found his marriage record? Does it tell you the name of his father?

The IGI lists 47 William Fleming births/baptisms in Scotland between 1785 and 1791, though there are at least half a dozen duplicates in that list. I have had a quick look through the index, but none of them was in Govan. There is, of course, no guarantee that your William is actually in the records at all.





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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 17 March 13 12:20 GMT (UK) »
Some hope then that Gervin is Girvan in Ayrshire.

My post crossed with Monica's. Yes, it could be Girvan.
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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 17 March 13 12:47 GMT (UK) »
Govan is also a possibility - it was a separate community in the 18th and 19th centuries, became a burgh in 1864, and was only incorporated into Glasgow in 1912

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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 17 March 13 12:54 GMT (UK) »
Thank you everyone :D I appreciate your help.
I will look into both possibilities....Govan(Glasgow) and Girvan(Ayrshire), it gives me something to go on.
Rigby-Lathom, Freckleton,
Singleton-Fylde
Moss-Rufford
Johnson-Tarleton
Hull-Tarleton, Fylde
French-Abram,Rainford
Blake-Upton in Cheshire
Bolas-Shropshire
Butler- Greenhalgh, Lancs
Harrison - Garstang, Lancs

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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 June 21 20:37 BST (UK) »
My ancestor, Christopher Columbus Gewin was born in 1660, Cornwall, Lancashire, England. Per Ancestory.com we are 48% likely from Scotland. You may be able to trace that name back to a Gewin Scotland.

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Re: Where is Gewin?
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 June 21 22:27 BST (UK) »
It could also be Gowrie, as in the Carse of Gowrie, now in Perthshire.
from Wikipedia;
It is usually written as Goverin or Gouerin in the Latin of the Middle Ages.
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