Elwyn Soutter I apologise for asking you a question on something that you did not post but im delighted you answered me about the muster rolls because I did not know about them and to find two dichares is a very rare thing indeed so once again thanks for assisting me on the dichare dicher connection
post the posterior posts to your answer I know have the following information
Sir john drummond the sone of sir john married majorie hamilton daughter to the laird of blair hamilton he was the last baron of boorland---- 1A boorland is where in Scotland could anyone inform me
1605 James, Lord Drummond, Ambassador to Spain, was created Earl of Perth in 1605.
1611 December 8 john Drummond made earl of perth say 1612 approx.
posterior to 1611 for he john Drummond first baron of boorland sold the baronie to john earl of perth and with the money passed to ireland where he made a purchase of land called kesh castle in the county of tyrone and died chyldeless about the year 1630----- 1B any one what parish kesh castle is in the county of tyrone----- 1C could anyone tell me if this john Drummond baron of boorland brought tenants over to tyrone with him and if so was there a dicher dichear ditcher dycher deacher deecher dyker family with him
John Drummond, 2nd Earl of Perth (1588 – 11 June 1662) was a Scottish nobleman. Drummond was the son of Patrick Drummond (3rd Lord Drummond) and Lady Elizabeth Lindsay. He married Jean Kerr, daughter of Sir Robert Kerr, 1st Earl of Roxburghe and Mary Maitland, on 28 August 1613. He succeeded to his father's title of 4th Lord Drummond in 1602 and then on 8 December 1611 (by special remainder) to the title of Earl of Perth created for his brother James Drummond (1586–1611).
1625 I have been researching the McGruther name in Scotland and concluded that they came to Monaghan as settlers about 1625, as the Duke of Perth on whose land they lived was one of the Undertakers so now I am supposing that the duke of perth in the barony of boorland Scotland moved with some tenants mcguthers to monaghan 1625 if so 2a the tenants of 1625 boorland in Scotland are there any dichers residing there on the duke of perth estate
2b where did they move to in Ireland monaghan where is the john Drummond earl of perth estate in Ireland
2c is there a list of tenants in monaghan which include mcgruthers and if so are there any dichers on that tenant list---if not how are the mcguthers saying they were in Ireland
6. DYKER is a name largely confined to the same Perth, the Scottish landlord who owned the land the family tenanted in County Monaghan, came from
3a this is my link and that's why im chasing the mcgruther connection because its all Ive got
The Muster Rolls c1630, “Men & Arms, edited by the late RJ Hunter does not list anyone of that name in Monaghan at that time. Nearest was Richard Dichare & John Dicher both in the Bishop of Kilmore’s estate in the barony of Castleraine, Co. Cavan.
I don’t have any specific information for the Bishop of Kilmore’s estate (of 2000 acres) but I would expect it to belong to the Church of Ireland with him being a trustee. I doubt he owned it personally. I also doubt it was leased to the Church. I would expect them to have been the ultimate owner.
4A this is my new line of enquiry thanks Elwyn Soutter so could anyone confirm for me who is the owner of this estate is it the drummonds the church of Ireland or somebody else
4b and is there a record of a tenant list with Richard dichare and john dicher on it
and once again any assistance on any of the questions 1A !B !C 2A 2B 2C 3A 4A 4B would be patiently awaited for
