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Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« on: Thursday 28 March 13 23:24 GMT (UK) »
Looking for links to the following family members.
1:
Captain George PICOT b: ? Jersey, d: 1 Jun 1922 (per Suz)
married ?
Nina Mary WIMBLE
b: ?  Jersey, d:?

Children
Norman Arthur b: 20-4-1882 England,  d: Australia
Ralph Joshua b: 13-11-1884 England.  d: Australia

2:
John/Jean PICOT b: abt Feb 1799, d: 16 Nov 1869 Grouville
married: ?

Jane - Unknown b: abt 1796
Child:
John PICOT b" abt 1826 d: bef 1911

John's family
1st married: 1847 Jersey
Details Unknown b: 1825 Jersey, d: 1851 Jersey (aged 26)

Child
John PICOT b: 14-3-1847 Jersey - - no other details known

2nd married:
Elizabeth Marie BERTRAM
b: abt 1824 Grouville. d: after 1911 Grouville

Children:
Charles b: 27 Dec 1853 Grouville, d: 7 Mar 1860 Grouville
William b: 29 Feb 1856 Grouville, d: 22 Apr 1856
William Arthur b: 1 Apr 1857 Grouville, d: 14 Jan 1934 Australia
Charles Simon B; 19 Jul 1860 Grouville
Elizabeth Suzanne B; 11 Dec 1862 St. Clement, Jersey,  d: 7 May 1934 Fort George, Guernsey,
Jane Victoria b: 2 Jan 1867 St. Clement, Jersey,

Trying to find the burial locations for the above family members.
Confirmation on birth, death and marriage details.

Migrations of William Arthur to Australia - believed to be to a Port in South Australia, where is rumoured he jumped ship there and initially made a life for himself before heading to Victoria.

We have found census entries for some family but unconfirmed.

A descendant family member is making the trip from Aust to Jersey mid year and staying a week to locate any potential family links, so getting as much background work before hand is vital.

We have contact the local church's and archive office but seem to be going around in circles getting straight answers.

Need to know where the cemeteries are, if none then where they would be buried eg: on church ground, on private land or in another Provence/township.

Any help and suggestions appreciated.  Thank you in advance.

Anna

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #1 on: Friday 29 March 13 01:05 GMT (UK) »
There are 12 parishes in Jersey, each has it's own graveyard but you would need to contact each parish individually re their records. In St Helier, the capital, burials where originally in the Town Church yard and Green Street cemetery, when they were full new cemeteries were opened - Almorah and Mont a l'Abbe. St Helier church and Green Street records are sketchy but both Almorah and Mont a l'Abbe have been indexed (indexes at the Archive). The burial records for St Clement's parish church are on-line.

In addition to those mentioned there are various other smaller cemeteries dotted around the island. A good source for burials are the funeral directors records many of which have been deposited at the Archive and are gradually being indexed.

Bear in mind that Picot is a very common name and that our ancestors had no imagination when it came to Christian names hence lots of Johns, Williams, Georges, Elizabeths and Janes.

I am away from the island at the moment but may be able to do a bit of digging on your behalf when I return in April.

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #2 on: Friday 29 March 13 01:47 GMT (UK) »
Looking for links to the following family members.
1:
Captain George PICOT b: ? Jersey, d: bef 1847
married ?
Nina Mary WIMBLE
b: ?  Jersey, d:?

Are you certain Captain George Picot died before 1847?? Do you mean he died before 1947????

Andrews nespapers
Picot on Wednesday Sept 10th 1947 at melbourne Australia Norman Arthur beloved husband of Marion and 2nd son of the late Captain George Picot Marine Superintendabnt and the late Mrs Picot of Jersey and Wanstead Essex England in his 66th year.

Census
1891
St Helier (think this was the name of the house) Leytonstone Essex England
George Picot Head M 47 Marine Superintendant St Helier Jersy
Nina M wife 38 St Helier jersey
George W son 12
Norman A son 8
Annie E M daughter 7
Ralph J son 6
Dorothy S daughter 4
Grace A daughter 3
Roger W son 2
Florence G Wimble sister in law U 35 St Helier jersey
children all b Leytonstone Essex
RG12 1346 57 50

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #3 on: Friday 29 March 13 01:58 GMT (UK) »
Probate
Nina Mary Picot of Enderley Millbrook St Lawrence Jersey, widow died 11 Dec 1835 Probate London 5 Mar to George Wimble Picot retired captain in H.M. Army and Vivian John Bailhache solicitor
Effects £19904 5s in England.

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #4 on: Friday 29 March 13 02:05 GMT (UK) »
Probate
George Picot of Les Tours Farm Fauvie St Clements Jersey died 1 June 1922 Probate London 18 Aug to Nina Mary Picot widow and John Hammond Wimble of no occupation
Effects £35430 17s 7d

Suz
Thornhill, Cresswell, Sisson, Harriman, Cripps, Eyre, Walter, Marson, Battison, Holmes, Bailey, Hardman, Fairhurst Noon-mainly in Derbys/Notts-but also Northampton, Oxford, Leics, Lancs-England
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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #5 on: Friday 29 March 13 05:06 GMT (UK) »
Looking for links to the following family members.
1:
Captain George PICOT b: ? Jersey, d: bef 1847
married ?
Nina Mary WIMBLE
b: ?  Jersey, d:?

Are you certain Captain George Picot died before 1847?? Do you mean he died before 1947????

Andrews nespapers
Picot on Wednesday Sept 10th 1947 at melbourne Australia Norman Arthur beloved husband of Marion and 2nd son of the late Captain George Picot Marine Superintendabnt and the late Mrs Picot of Jersey and Wanstead Essex England in his 66th year.

Census
1891
St Helier (think this was the name of the house) Leytonstone Essex England
George Picot Head M 47 Marine Superintendant St Helier Jersy
Nina M wife 38 St Helier jersey
George W son 12
Norman A son 8
Annie E M daughter 7
Ralph J son 6
Dorothy S daughter 4
Grace A daughter 3
Roger W son 2
Florence G Wimble sister in law U 35 St Helier jersey
children all b Leytonstone Essex
RG12 1346 57 50

Suz

Hi Suz,

Yes you are correct I rechecked my information and George d: bef 10-Sep-1947 (per son's death notice)

Thank you so much for picking that up - guess doing stuff at 4am one should ensure brain is engaged properly.
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Boelens - NLD

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #6 on: Friday 29 March 13 05:23 GMT (UK) »
There are 12 parishes in Jersey, each has it's own graveyard but you would need to contact each parish individually re their records. In St Helier, the capital, burials where originally in the Town Church yard and Green Street cemetery, when they were full new cemeteries were opened - Almorah and Mont a l'Abbe. St Helier church and Green Street records are sketchy but both Almorah and Mont a l'Abbe have been indexed (indexes at the Archive). The burial records for St Clement's parish church are on-line.

In addition to those mentioned there are various other smaller cemeteries dotted around the island. A good source for burials are the funeral directors records many of which have been deposited at the Archive and are gradually being indexed.

Bear in mind that Picot is a very common name and that our ancestors had no imagination when it came to Christian names hence lots of Johns, Williams, Georges, Elizabeths and Janes.

I am away from the island at the moment but may be able to do a bit of digging on your behalf when I return in April.

Thank you - a family member (Marion) is traveling over there from Aust in May/June (don't have exact dates yet and this will be of an enormous help to her.
Blythe - Scotland, Aust
Denmead - UK, Wales, Aust
Hoy - UK, Aust
Vesey - UK, Aust
Williams - UK, Wales, Aust
Yates - UK, Aust
van Steel - NLD
Wiebenga - NLD
Steffens - NLD
Oostveen - NLD
Boelens - NLD

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #7 on: Friday 29 March 13 05:26 GMT (UK) »
Probate
George Picot of Les Tours Farm Fauvie St Clements Jersey died 1 June 1922 Probate London 18 Aug to Nina Mary Picot widow and John Hammond Wimble of no occupation
Effects £35430 17s 7d

Suz

This is just wonderful - thank you so much Suz.
What would I use as the 'source' for the information and where would Marion (who is coming over mid year) go to get copies of this and other records.
Blythe - Scotland, Aust
Denmead - UK, Wales, Aust
Hoy - UK, Aust
Vesey - UK, Aust
Williams - UK, Wales, Aust
Yates - UK, Aust
van Steel - NLD
Wiebenga - NLD
Steffens - NLD
Oostveen - NLD
Boelens - NLD

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Re: Grouville - Jersey - Channel Island
« Reply #8 on: Friday 29 March 13 05:38 GMT (UK) »
Probate
Nina Mary Picot of Enderley Millbrook St Lawrence Jersey, widow died 11 Dec 1835 Probate London 5 Mar to George Wimble Picot retired captain in H.M. Army and Vivian John Bailhache solicitor
Effects £19904 5s in England.

Suz

Hi Suz,

This has me confused as the 1891 census has her age as 38, that gives her birth about 1854 - but this probate is stating she died in 1835 - before she is supposed to have been born.  :-\

Georges probate date 1922 does state it goes to Nina Mary Picot widow - so now totally confused
Blythe - Scotland, Aust
Denmead - UK, Wales, Aust
Hoy - UK, Aust
Vesey - UK, Aust
Williams - UK, Wales, Aust
Yates - UK, Aust
van Steel - NLD
Wiebenga - NLD
Steffens - NLD
Oostveen - NLD
Boelens - NLD