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Re: Photo's found at carboot sale.
« Reply #63 on: Saturday 27 April 13 01:17 BST (UK) »
Number 18;- On the back of the photo it say's Jack. 15-3-19 It also say's L/Cpl,Ray. Baghdad. at the foot of the photo but it is not showing on this scan.

Very faint image but does compare well with #8
Number 8;- L/Cpl. J.W. Ray. Civil police, Baghdad.

Eliza and Amy's brother JAMES RAY born 1877 Hartfield Sussex.


Son John William James RAY-is, I think,on the WW1 Service Records as just John RAY with an Edenbridge address. The age is out but most other things fit.

I believe it was his sister Amy who married William PAYNE.

Maureen

Jack and John are interchangeable ... James, don't think so :-\

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« Reply #64 on: Saturday 27 April 13 01:47 BST (UK) »
Harriet Selina RAY (b 1892)-daughter of John William RAY marries Richard Alfred Astley(that's how it's transcribed on A* but it looks like it starts with an H to me) SANDFORD age 31 Private A.S.C. (M.T.?) father Richard Sandford occ:tin smith.
  3 Jun 1917 at Brondesbury Christ Church (Middlesex) witnesses Sibyl EARL and Maud SANDFORD.

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« Reply #65 on: Saturday 27 April 13 03:12 BST (UK) »
 :) :) :)
Just noticed the date of the marriage vs the date of the photo.

So it's their wedding day!

Just to note-he seems to have been born as Alfred Richard H SANDFORD.

Father Richard-mother Emma.


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« Reply #66 on: Saturday 27 April 13 03:27 BST (UK) »
That's brilliant Maureen ... wedding day so perhaps hence the reference to Mr and Mrs Sandford

Wonder if there are two families of Rays ... with the John v James  :-\  and now Harriet family of John William Ray

not amongst the names already mentioned but may well be more family or cousins 

E Ray is Eliza Ann Ray daughter of Annie Martha. Born 1881 she was living at  Gilbridge Chiddingstone in 1911. That is about 4 miles from Leigh.

She had 3 younger sisters Ellen 1886, Mary A 1888 and Amy 1890.

Amy RAY married William PAYNE  1914 in Tonbridge, Kent


mother Annie Martha

( again modified to clarify )


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« Reply #67 on: Saturday 27 April 13 04:07 BST (UK) »
You really had to ask,didn't you,mare? :) :)

I think groom got a little mixed in generations..but same family.

In 1881 James and Annie M RAY have a 13 yr old son John. He's the one who goes on to have the family we're looking at. His family with wife Mary A are:

All born in Sevenoaks Reg District:
RAY
Annie Mary A  1890
Harriet Selina 1892>>>>> married SANDFORD
Amy 1893>>>> married William PAYNE
Edith Caroline 1895
John William J 1897  the L/CPL in B*dad
Frank Charles 1901
Frederick Robert 1903
Ellen Eliza 1904
Marjorie Ethel 1909

Could be more of them but I'm stopping at 1911. :)


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« Reply #68 on: Saturday 27 April 13 04:56 BST (UK) »
Well done for the sort out ... ;) unmuddled me as an observer/looker-upperer-amateur.

Generations are certainly easy to confuse though, especially when names get repetitive.   

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« Reply #69 on: Saturday 27 April 13 05:02 BST (UK) »
Makes #1 Miss E Ray  :-\  either Ellen Eliza b 1904 or Edith Caroline b 1895 

added ... so I'll say Edith

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« Reply #70 on: Saturday 27 April 13 10:59 BST (UK) »
Back of photo #12;
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  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY

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« Reply #71 on: Saturday 27 April 13 11:00 BST (UK) »
Back of photo #15;
.http://www.rootschat.com/links/05q2/   
  WILSON;-Wiltshire.
 SOUL;-Gloucestershire.
 SANSUM;-Berkshire-Wiltshire
 BASSON-BASTON;- Berkshire,- Oxfordshire.
 BRIDGES;- Wiltshire.
 DOWDESWELL;-Wiltshire,Gloucestershire
 JORDAN;- Berkshire.
 COX;- Berkshire.
 GOUDY;- Suffolk.
 CHATFIELD;-Sussex-- London
 MORGAN;-Blaenavon-Abersychan
 FISHER;- Berkshire.
 BLOMFIELD-BLOOMFIELD-BLUMFIELD;-Suffolk.
DOVE. Essex-London
YOUNG-Berkshire
ARDEN.
PINEGAR-COLLIER-HUGHES-JEFFERIES-HUNT-MOSS-FRY