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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 02 June 13 00:43 BST (UK) »
Hi
Back home and have checked my info. Alan was aged 49 on emigration papers, Mary aged 48 Ewen was aged 9 and there was a Mary and a Susan, as well as Catherine aged 18 but came out on her own account. They left Scotland sept 1853 and arrived in Portland Bay 4 jan 1854.
Can Ewen be a grandson and not a son? he is a lot younger? another question.
Thank you all Julienne

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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 02 June 13 00:50 BST (UK) »
Hi again
I have Catherines death certificate which states her mother being Mary Boyd.
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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 02 June 13 04:34 BST (UK) »
Catherine came out on the "Utopia" which sailed from Liverpool on the 3rd September 1853 arriving in Portland in January 1854.
With Catherine were her parents Allan aged 49 and an Ag Labourer from Argyll passenger no 28 from page 191, Allan was engaged by Angus Cameron of Violet Creek in the County of Normanbyfor the sum of 65 pounds 12 shillings. Allan was listed as Presbyterian and could read and write.
Mary from Argyll aged 48 and passenger no 29, could not read or write.
Ewen aged 9 and passenger no 30 on page 191.

On page 199 we have Catherine aged 18 from Invernesshire who came to Portland on her own account.
 Christy aged 18 and passenger no 218 who went to work for Mr. Allison of Portland for 25 pound 3 shillings.
Elizabeth aged 20 came on her own account to Portland.
Mary aged 36 went to work for Mr. Ginnaman of Portland for 30 pounds 3 shillings.
Mary aged 23 who came with parents.
Susan aged 25 who went to work for Mr. James Ross of Portland for 30 pounds.
All are listed as Domestic Servants.
On Catherine's marriage certificate it states she was from Drimsallie, Inverness. Drimsallie is located between Glenfinnan and Kenlocheil at the top of Loch Eil. Her father is listed as a Sawyer on both her marriage and death certificates.

Name:    Catharine Cameron

Age:    13
Estimated Birth Year:    abt 1838
Relationship:    Daughter
Father's Name:    Alex Mclean
Gender:    Female
Where born:    Urquhart, Inverness
Parish Number:    107
Civil parish:    Urquhart and Glenmoriston
County:    Inverness
Occupation:    Scholar
ED:    7
Page:    2 .
Household schedule number:    7
Line:    9
Roll:    CSSCT1851_25
Household Members:    
Name    Age
Alex Mclean    34
Mary Mclean    42
Margaret Mclean    14
Marjory Mclean    11
Kate Mclean    9
Sally Mclean    7
Jean Mclean    4
Allan Cameron    44
Christina Cameron    43
Mary Cameron    17
Catharine Cameron    13
Alexander Cameron    11
Mary Cameron    7
William Cameron aged 4
Julienne

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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #21 on: Sunday 02 June 13 19:25 BST (UK) »
Gold Star, Looby  ;) Your comments re Fintry and Fintray...

How about this entry from 1851:

Allan Cameron 54 sawyer b. Fintry, Stirlingshire
Mary Cameron 51 b. Kilmallie
Catherine Cameron 15 b. Polladras (?spl), Renfrewshire
Ewen Henderson 6 grandson b. Kilmallie

Address: 6 Drimnasallie, Kilmallie

Monica


Well done Monica....that looks more like them! ;D

Looby

Could Polladras be Pollokshaws?

A. M.

P.S. Don't be thrown off trail, just to say there is also an area in Dundee, Angus named "Fintry"
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #22 on: Sunday 02 June 13 19:41 BST (UK) »
Yes I wondered if Polladras could be Pollockshaws  too. I don't know if Monica quoted from the original Census or from a transcription. If it was a transcription maybe a read at the original would shed more light.

Allan does appear to have been born in Fintry, Stirlingshire.  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X1LZ-PMQ
His parents are quoted on emigration papers as Susan Hunter and Ewen Cameron.
Birth in Fintry,Stirling of Allan Cameron on 1 st May 1796 to Susanna Hunter and Hugh Cameron (Hugh and Ewen being interchangable names). :D

The Ewen aged 9 on emigration in 1854 fits with the 6 year old Ewen Henderson recorded as grandson three years earlier on 1851 Census. There is no son listed with the family so I would think that Ewen was Allan and Mary Cameron's Grandson.

Looby


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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #23 on: Sunday 02 June 13 19:51 BST (UK) »
Hi Julienne,

I've read through your last post and I'm a bit confused by some of it. ??? Just call me thick!

Do you think there are two separate Cameron families listed on the "Utopia" passenger list? Who is Christy aged 18 and Mary aged 36?
Also is that a transcription from a Census you have posted? Why does Catherine Cameron give her father's name as Alex McLean?
Sorry for the questions :-[......I'm just trying to take in the info to try and be of further help- if I can.

Looby.

P.S. Meant to say - do you think Allan went out to work for a relative - Angus Cameron? Just a thought ;D

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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #24 on: Monday 03 June 13 06:40 BST (UK) »
Hi
CAMERON    ALEXR    18    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    198
CAMERON    ALEXR    22    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    198
CAMERON    ALLAN    49    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    ANGUS    10    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    CATHERINE    18    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
CAMERON    CHRISTY    18    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
CAMERON    DUGALD    45    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    DUNCAN    14    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    198
CAMERON    ELIZABETH    20    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
CAMERON    EWEN    9    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    EWEN    30    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    192
CAMERON    HUGH    39    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    198
CAMERON    JANET    20    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    192
CAMERON    JOHN    16    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    198
CAMERON    MARY    23    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
CAMERON    MARY    36    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
CAMERON    MARY    42    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    MARY    48    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    SARAH    12    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    191
CAMERON    SUSAN    25    JAN    1854    UTOPIA    10    199
These are the Camerons that came on the Utopia.
Below are how they came out on the HEIS scheme.
CAMERON         Hugh            39   Achnacarry     Cameron of Locheil
    554                   Mary             36   (Sister)
CAMERON          Christy         18    Banavie        Cameron of Locheil
   560

Deposit £1-0-0 paid to Mr Bett
CAMERON         Ewen           30    Druimarbin     Donald Cameron of Locheil
   566                     Janet           20   (wife)

Deposit £3  paid to Mr Bett   Eligible young people
CAMERON         Dugald          45    Lochyside      Donald Cameron of Locheil
   567                    Mary             42
                             Alexander     18
                             John              16
                             Duncan         14
                            Sarah             12
                           Angus            10

P/N £7-4-10  Very healthy family
CAMERON         Alexander       22    Banavie        Donald Cameron of Locheil
   568                     Elizabeth         20   (sister)

Deposit £3 paid to Mr Bett  Healthy young people
CAMERON         Alexander       49    Drumnasaillie  Donald Cameron of Locheil
   569                     Mary              48
                              Susan             25
                              Mary             23
                             Catherine       18
                             Ewen               9

P/N  £28-13-7  Very excellent family (This is my lot) Do not know why Alexander.
Until I can go through all my things I cant remember off hand where the census record came from.
Julienne

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Re: re Camerons
« Reply #25 on: Friday 07 June 13 10:31 BST (UK) »
I take it Locheil is paying their passage here? the Cameron's escape much of the flak directed at landowners like the Sutherland's. When it comes to clearance they were in fact as bad as any.

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« Reply #26 on: Sunday 11 August 13 16:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Julienne,

Just picking up on this thread to identify the people in the 1841 Corrybeg census, post #15 by Looby, pretty sure they are Donald Boyd (78) & Marjory Cameron (72), their children were:

Ann Boyd bpt 23 Mar 1795 Drimnasallie (Kilmallie); married John Young a farm labourer (c1798 – 1855 Kilmallie)  This family is at Druimfern in 1841, Parish 502 Kilmallie, ED: 6, Folio 5, Page 2 and at Drimnasallie in 1851. Ann (Boyd) Young died 28 Mar 1875 at Fort William, recorded age 81.

Male Boyd bpt 8 Mar 1798

Mary Boyd b c1799 married Allan Cameron 23 Apr 1820 Barony, Lanarkshire
Mary Cameron, daughter of Allan Cameron & Mary Boyd was born/bpt 28 Feb 1828 at Strontian, Argyll.  In 1851 she is visiting her Uncle Alexander & family at Corrybeg.  No birth records found for the other children

Alexander Boyd born/bpt 21 Mar 1805 Kilmallie married Isabella McMillan 28 Dec 1838 Ballachulsh & Corran of Ardgour, Argyll.  Their eldest son, Donald was baptised 30 Dec 1840 Kilmallie, Argyll.  Alexander worked as a wood sawyer firstly in Corrybeg then in Fort William, retired to Glasgow 1871 - 1881 & died Tradeston, Glasgow 26 Sep 1890.  Isabella died between 1881 & 1890

John Boyd bpt 1 Nov 1807 Kilmallie.

brigau