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Royal Artillery in Berwickshire?
« on: Monday 27 May 13 19:32 BST (UK) »
A marriage at Hutton, the original record says:
15 Sep 1777 - John Clazie in His Majesty’s Corps of Artillery at Perth & Margaret Palen in this parish were married before these Witnesses, David Dickson & James Scot.

And then 14 years later, a baptism at Ladykirk, shown on FamilySearch:
Name:  John
Gender:  Male
Christening Date:  29 Apr 1791
Christening Place:  , Ladykirk, Berwick, Scotland
Father’s Name:  John
Mother’s Name:  Margaret Clazy

 
- How would a lass from Berwickshire meet someone from the Royal Artillery, stationed at Perth?  Were artillerymen ordinarily present in Berwickshire in late 1700s?  A researcher went to Kew, unable to find any record of John Clazie / Clezy, etc. in Royal Artillery archives.  Suggestions about elsewhere to look?

- Why does the baptism record at Ladykirk show no surname for the child, or the father, but only for the mother?





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Re: Royal Artillery in Berwickshire?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 29 May 13 13:32 BST (UK) »
possibly stationed a Berwick Barracks - try the Museum there - hutton not far from Berwick upon tweed.

possibly reasons for the lack of name 1. the minister just didn't write down, 2. father not present or 3. father dead 4. the transcriber mis-read it could have read john & margaret Clazy.  jury out on that one.

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Re: Royal Artillery in Berwickshire?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 29 May 13 20:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you - a cousin in the UK is making inquires at the Berwick Museum. 

The family of John Claise/Clazey/Clazie/Clazy/Clezie/Clezy moved from Coldstream to Edrington about 1764.  Their son John likely joined the Royal Artillery at Berwick-upon-Tweed in about 1775, when he was age 20.  In 1777, he married Margaret Paulin/Palen/Paline at Hutton, both were 22. 
They in turn had a son, John, christened 1791 at Ladykirk. 

We have only conjecture to fill those 14 years from 1777-91.  No idea why it took this couple 14 years before they had a child.  Perhaps because the husband was always gone with the Artillery!  A researcher went to the archives at Kew, unable to find any record there of the older John Cl.z.. or his service in the Royal Artillery.



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Re: Royal Artillery in Berwickshire?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 31 May 13 13:53 BST (UK) »
Now heard from the Berwick Museum: they have no records that would assist us, suggested we might try the Royal Artillery Museum at Woolwich and the National Archives at Kew - the latter already tried without success.  Round-and-round we go...
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Re: Royal Artillery in Berwickshire?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 11 May 20 20:59 BST (UK) »
A strange record has now shown up in Jamaica!  A child "William Clizy" born on 29 May 1786 at Port Royal, Jamaica, son of "John Clizy & Margaret Clizy".  Parents believed to be John Clazy / Clezy  (born 1755 at Lithtillum, Berwickshire) and his wife Margaret Paulin / Palen (born Nov 1754 at Hutton).

John Clazy joined the Royal Artillery in March 1777.  He married Margaret in Sep 1777 at Hutton (surnames shown as Clazie & Palen).  Military records show that John spent time in "the Indies".  There was an artillery unit attached to the naval base at Port Royal, Jamaica.   

The parents returned to the UK, shown in the 1811 census at Horndean, near Ladykirk, with 1 unnamed son.  Is anything further known about their son, William Cl•zy, born 1786 in Jamaica?

   
Clezie (Clazie, Clezy, Clazy, Clazey, Claise, etc.), Lockhart, Heiser, Schwab, Tomon, Zarnowski, Megert, Iseli