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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #63 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 05:47 BST (UK) »
Well unfortunately we were way off track with Charles the orphan  ;D

Baptisms Administered in the Parish of St. Philip's, Sydney, in the County of Cumberland, N.S. Wales, in the year 1848.

George Richard, son of Charles Richard and Margaret JONES

Baptized January 1848
Born 6th December 1847

Abode: Clarence Street
Quality or Profession: Hairdresser
Ceremony performed by William COWPER

Baptisms Administered in the Parish of St. Philip's, Sydney, in the County of Cumberland, N.S. Wales, in the year 1849.

Baptized 30 September 1849
Born 23rd August 1848

Ann Elizabeth, daughter of Chas. Richard and Margaret JONES

Abode: King Street
Quality or Profession: Hairdresser
Ceremony performed by Robt. L. KING

And the marriage:

Marriages solemnized in the Parish of St Philips
25 May 1846

Charles Richard JONES of this parish, Bachelor
Margaret TALLENTIRE of the Parish of Holy Trinity, Spinster

Married by Banns with consent of Mother

Ceremony performed by William COWPER

I believe they both signed (no indication of "x mark"), but this copy is not the original and all written in one hand.

Witnesses: John RODDAMS or REDDAMS of Sydney
                  Mary KILLEEN (her X mark) of Balmain

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #64 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 06:17 BST (UK) »
I also saw that the online indexes contained some post 1856 burials so I had a look at the three:

This chap was a Mason, and aged 30    
Burial
1860
V18608999 122B
JONES, CHARLES

This is probably the corresponding death reg., as the other death in 1860 was for a 22 year old:              

1510/1860
JONES, CHARLES
Parents: WILLIAM & MARIA
SYDNEY

This chap was a warehouseman, aged 26
Burial
1861
V18619581 122B
JONES, CHARLES

Probably the corresponding death reg.:
              
666/1861
JONES, CHARLES
Parents: ISAAC & UNKNOWN
SYDNEY   

This one had no occupation listed, but was aged 51 and his abode was Francis Street, Woolloomooloo.
Burial
1864
V186412230 122C
JONES, CHARLES

Probably the corresponding death reg. as the other death in 1864 was for a 73 year old.
               
861/1864
JONES, CHARLES
Parents: EDWARD & REBECCA
SYDNEY

Death notice:
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/60559579

I have met this man previously (genealogically speaking  ;D) and this is definitely not our Charles.

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #65 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 07:33 BST (UK) »
Sands 1863 Alpha Sydney Directory
Charles JONES, agent, 29 Francis St   :)

This one had no occupation listed, but was aged 51 and his abode was Francis Street, Woolloomooloo.
Burial
1864
V186412230 122C
JONES, CHARLES



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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #66 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 07:38 BST (UK) »
HAIRDRESSER  :)

Sorry, but my Sands 1863 Trade & Professional Directory definitely does have the heading "hairdressers and perfumers" and there's quite a few names under that heading, BUT .... none with surname JONES .... :'(

I tried under the heading "Barber" and it refers back to hairdressers and perfumers  ::)

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #67 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 07:44 BST (UK) »
JM, what about Tobacconists?

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #68 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 07:48 BST (UK) »
Tobacconists   NONE by the surname JONES

Snuff Makers   NONE by the surname JONES

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #69 on: Tuesday 04 June 13 13:15 BST (UK) »
Could he perhaps have changed his profession by 1863 or gone off to the gold fields?

His marriage record states he is of the parish of St Philip's so does this mean he may have been born in the parish so there should be a parish record of his birth.
Thanks for all this new information.
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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #70 on: Friday 07 June 13 05:57 BST (UK) »
Could he perhaps have changed his profession by 1863 or gone off to the gold fields?Cheers DPaton

He could have done either of these and also possibly wasn't deceased by 1866.  They may have had no contact with him for some time and presumed he was dead.  It would be worthwhile to get Margaret's death certificate to see exactly how many children she had to Charles.  If Ann was the last child, born in 1848, and Charles only appears on the electoral roll to 1851 then it is possible that he was long gone by 1866.  It may also be beneficial to know what happened to the son George and whether he was still living when his mother died.

I know why George's baptism doesn't appear in the indexes.

This child in the indexes is the baptism after George:

V1848 33
33A/1848
MACLEAR, ISABELLA
THOMAS & ISABELLA

Oh look, here she is again  ;D

V1848 32
33A/1848
MACLEAR, ISABELLA
THOMAS & ISABELLA

This second one should be for George.

I don't (yet) know why Ann is missing.

Being "of a parish" on a marriage entry is where they were living at the time of the marriage.

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Re: Charles Jones
« Reply #71 on: Friday 07 June 13 15:47 BST (UK) »
Just found a post about a Charles R Jones that looks like it could relate to the same Charles who is Annie's father. "Born London 30 Aug 1821 to Charles R and Elizabeth Jones. Died Greenville IL 29 Dec 1902. Married first in Australia; three children, one George, b. 1847/48, "deaf, dumb".  Second marriage in Brighton, England 16 April 1853 to Annie Greenland; six children, Joseph E, Sacramento, CA, Charles O., Emily C., Loise E., Rosina, Pearl K., all of Greenville IL. Served four years on British man-o-war "Acbar" - enlisted at Gravesend, Eng. as servant to Capt. Pepper.  Joined fleet at Wampoo, China 1841 during "Opium War". Visited Manila four times.  In Australia had barber shop and cigar store in Melbourne and Sydney (this fits with him being a Hairdresser). Returned to England 1852; came to Iron Mountain, Jefferson Co., 1854. Moved to Carlye, IL and in 1867 to Greenville." Need to check all the dates and people etc but looks like a fit.
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