Dawson/Ingle mystery

[Cazo]

So one of my sets of great-great etc grandparents are William Thomas Ingle (1808-1856) and Elizabeth Dawson (1808-1879). However, I have very little information on them. Apparently Elizabeth's father was John and she and William were second cousins but I don't have any other information on either of their ancestors. William and Elizabeth were married at St Martin in the Fields on 6 Mar 1836 and had twins in London who died (Honoria Ewing and Timothy Ewing) as well as my ancestor Amelia. They then moved to Cambridge where they had several other children (Hannah, Elisabeth, Margaret, Jane, William) before immigrating to South Africa around 1848. They appear on the 1841 Census, but not on the 1851 one. It appears that "Ewing" is a family name but I can't source this either.

Any help or advice would be appreciated.

[Milliepede]

Could this be him - William Thomas Ingle baptised 8 May 1808 Tower Hamlets son of Timothy coach maker and Hannah.  William born 19 March 1808.

I wonder if Hannah was a Ewing *

* No she was Hannah Martha Douce marriage to Timothy Ingle 10 Nov 1805.

Timothy baptised 22 Nov 1781 parents Joseph and Elisabeth.

[Milliepede]

This caught my eye with the names *

Marriage 10 Aug 1800 St Martin in the Fields Honor Ingle to Thomas Dowson *

[Milliepede]

When were the children in London born?  I can see Amelia baptism 1838 father coachmaker.

And where are they in 1841 please?

[Milliepede]

Is this another London one - Margaret 1837 father William Thomas coachmaker mother Elizabeth.

[Cazo]

Hi Milliepede

Thanks for all the info. In the 1841 census the family (William, Elizabeth, Amelia & Hannah) were living at No 22 James Street, Cambridge St. Andrew The Less, Cambridge.
Their first children, twins, Honoria & Timothy were born in Nov 1836 and died on 9 Dec of that year.
3. Amelia was born on 29 Jan 1838 in London and christened on 12 Mar 1838 at St. Sepulchures Church, London.
4. Hannah, Cambridge, 24 Oct 1840.
5. Elisabeth, Cambridge, 19 Oct 1842.
6. Margaret, Cambridge, 11 Mar 1844.
7. Jane, 28 Feb 1847 - 18 Apr 1849
8. William Timothy, Cambridge, 13 Jun 1848
9. Thomas John, aft 1849 in Grahamstown, Cape Colony.

Thanks

[Galium]

1851 census
St Ann Soho, Middlesex
Hannah Martha Ingle head W  74  Lodging house keeper   Deptford, Kent
George C Ingle*  son          U   27  Coach painter              Westminster

[Census ref:HO107/ Piece: 1510/ Folio: 97/ Page: 2]

Given that Hannah was born in Deptford, this seems a likely baptism( from familysearch):
Hannah Martha Dowse  17 June 1778 d/o Thomas and Mary     

Dowse begins to resemble Dowson/Dawson as a surname.   

*George Charles Ingle s/o Timothy and Hannah born and baptised in 1824 St Ann, Soho

[Cazo]

Thanks for all your help, Milliepede and Galium!

I've finally had a moment to examine all the info and do some more research so here's a bit of an update:

I've identified Elizabeth Dawson (b. 14 Apr 1808, Margate) as the daughter of Thomas Dowson and Honor Ingle from the marriage mentioned. Elizabeth Dawson and William Ingle (her husband) were second cousins and this seems to confirm that the connection was through the Ingle family. Thomas Dowson had died before the 1851 census and I can't find him in 1841 so no info on him so far. They had six children I can find: John, Elizabeth, Thomas, Honora, James and Mary. Honor Ingle was born (according to the 1851 census) around 1779 in Bloomsbury - but I've had no luck finding her. She died in 1864 in Kent.

On to the Ingle side: Milliepede, where did you find this?

Timothy baptised 22 Nov 1781 parents Joseph and Elisabeth.

I can't seem to find that record anywhere - I have found parents that would fit. Joseph Ingle married Elizabeth Little in 1772 and they had six children: Thomas, Elizabeth, Joseph, Thomas Carter, Joseph, Joseph Robert. Obviously a high rate of infant mortality though I haven't found any death/burial records for the children.

Now: Hannah Martha Douce (Doucc). Galium, I think your baptism record is correct which means her parents were Thomas Dowse and Mary Cook who married in Deptford in 1760. They had six other childre: Mary, Thomas, William, William, Ann and Richard. I couldn't find a death record for Hannah: she could be the Hannah Maria Ingle who died in Lewisham in 1854, but I think it is more likely that she is Martha Hannah Ingle who died in Strand 1857 (which is where she was in the 1851 census).

Thanks again for the help - and if anyone has ideas on how to find more info on the connection between Timothy Ingle and Honor Ingle that would be fabulous! I'm also interested in finding out if the Douce/Dowse connection does connect up with the Dawson/Dowsons.

Cazo