Help to find a marriage please(***Completed with thanks***)

[cando]

When & where married, Issue Living & deceased (of this marriage):
8th January 1879, Sherwood
(Note: Just days before Margaret's 16th birthday)

Anne

And Wivenhoe's excellent find.

South Burke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic) 15 Jun 1887

Griffith Point Police Court…..Mary Corbett v. Michael Moore; illegal detention of goods valued at £49-Mr. F.

More evidence that Michael and Margaret were not married.

Cando

[majm]

 

Does that mean there's two admin issues re this particular birth ....

1)  the "R" on the index indicating there's been clerical changes made to the initial registration. (the line drawn through the section re the baby's father's profession etc.)

2)  the late registration causing the informant to make a formal declaration re the date of birth of the baby.

Name & Profession of Father, Age & birthplace of Father:
Illegitimate
When & where married, Issue Living & deceased (of this marriage):
8th January 1879, Sherwood
(Note: Just days before Margaret's 16th birthday)
Cornelius 14
Richard 13
Mary 11
Maggie 9
(Note: Sydney Walter not listed as he is not a child of this marriage)
THIS SECTION THEN CROSSED OUT AND WRITTEN ACROSS IT:
Cancelled, Illegitimate
.........
Signature, descriptive & address of Informant:
Margaret Moore
mother
Somerville
after declaration made as by law required
Witness of birth:
Mrs Wiltshire
When & where registered:
21st August 1894, Cranborne
Signature of Deputy Register:
M Duff
acting registrar

Mind you,  as far as I am aware, at least in NSW, there was no requirement for anyone to "prove" they were a married couple when registering a birth (I guess regulations in VIC in 19thC would be similar) ....   

Cheers,  JM

[majm]

 "as required by the Act,within 60 days after birth. In cases where the registration was not made within 60 days a fee of 5s was charged. "

FIVE BOB .... for being late... 

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/88992527 Bendigo Advertiser 27 Oct 1896.


Cheers,  JM

[cando]

I may well be incorrect and that's nothing new however I always understood that the R suffix to the registration number indicated there were two registrations ie the registration was repeated with the same registration number as there was either conflicting information or the details were not clear.  Another reason springs to mind....if the couple marry after the birth is registered and if the father wishes to have his name noted on the birth as such. When researching in Vic I have also found births registered years after the event and the letter R as a suffix.  I do have some literature 'somewhere'.

Perhaps I should note....the above paragraph probably contains errors and omissions

Cheers
Cando

[cando]

And Wivenhoe's excellent find.

Quote

    South Burke and Mornington Journal (Richmond, Vic) 15 Jun 1887

    Griffith Point Police Court…..Mary Corbett v. Michael Moore; illegal detention of goods valued at £49-Mr. F.


More evidence that Michael and Margaret were not married.

Cando

Probably fortunate that I don't have the modify button to 'correct' the above...just realised the error    Mary not Margaret

I still doubt there was a marriage.

Cando

[majm]

 

I thought that Mary Corbett was Margaret Mary's mum  so the cutting was suggesting to me that Michael Moore's Mother in law (either formally or at least informally) was prosecuting him....

Cheers,  JM

[Dundee]

Cornelius 14
Richard 13
Mary 11
Maggie 9
(Note: Sydney Walter not listed as he is not a child of this marriage)

I think Sydney isn't there because he wasn't born.  The age on his death reg. in 1941 is 45, giving him a birth year of c1896, so he was younger than Ada.

Debra 

[majm]

Well, of course ..... Excellent point Debra   

Margaret Mary CORBETT was born in 1863 in Cranbourne Victoria. On her death certificate dated 13 June 1932 (in the name of Margaret Mary WOODLAND) she has 2 marriages.

1st marriage to Michael MOORE at age 15 in Cranbourne - they had 4 children the youngest is Margaret aged 47.

2nd marriage is to Syndey WOODLAND at age 30 years in Cranbourne - they had 2 children the eldest was Ada age 36.

The person who registered the death was an authorised agent.

I cannot find a marriage between Michael MOORE AND Margaret Mary and I cannnot find a death for Michael MOORE.

I hope someone can help me find this information. Thanks in advance, cheers Ted

and

I've found all the children's births Merlin - I just want to find the marriages so I can buy the certs and see what they say - its driving me nuts.

Do you think that some of the records in Cranbourne got lost?

Ted,  that driving me nuts disorder seems to be able to reach across cyberspace, cause I am getting headache from looking and looking and looking and NOT finding either marriage.... 

Cheers,  JM

[sparrett]

It begs the questions

What was the impediment to the first marriage?

If there was no first marriage

What was the impediment to the second marriage?

Sue