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Re: Help with Ayres/Pike/Stanley History
« on: Monday 22 July 13 16:53 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace my family tree - great great grandfather was George Ayres born around 1833 or 1834 in towcester/northants area - he worked on the land as an ag lab or 'waggoner of horses'? I understand that he married an Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Liverpool or Ireland
My great grandfather was also George Ayres born in 1869 and he moved to Yorkshire and Married a Minnie Smith who was born in Aspley Guise around 1867
Does anyone have any further information which may help me - thanks

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Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #1 on: Monday 22 July 13 16:57 BST (UK) »
I am trying to trace my family tree and need some help - my great great grandfather was born around 1833/34 in towcester/northants area and married Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Livepool or Ireland
My great grandfather also George Ayres was born around 1869 and married Minnie Smith - born around 1867 in apsley guise - they eventually moved to South Yorkshire
Does anyone have any further information which may help me move forward ??
thanks

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #2 on: Monday 22 July 13 17:48 BST (UK) »
Hi

Where was George jnr born and when and where did he marry Minnie?

Have you found a marriage between George snr and Ann Collins?

Have you found them on any census as that should give Ann's birthyear and birthplace
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Re: Re: Help with Ayres/Pike/Stanley History
« Reply #3 on: Monday 22 July 13 17:55 BST (UK) »
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I am trying to trace my family tree - great great grandfather was George Ayres born around 1833 or 1834 in towcester/northants area - he worked on the land as an ag lab or 'waggoner of horses'? I understand that he married an Ann Collins - not sure if Ann was a local girl or if she came from Liverpool or Ireland
My great grandfather was also George Ayres born in 1869 and he moved to Yorkshire and Married a Minnie Smith who was born in Aspley Guise around 1867
Does anyone have any further information which may help me - thanks


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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #4 on: Monday 22 July 13 17:58 BST (UK) »
Hi all, this is the 1871:-

George Ayers 38
Ann 36 b Liverpool
Thomas 14
John Collins 7
Mary Collins 6
Elizabeth Collins 4
William Collins 1
George Collins 3 Visitor
Residing at High Street, Part of Potcote, Cold Higham, Towcester
Census Ref RG10/1472/8/8
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #5 on: Monday 22 July 13 18:01 BST (UK) »
So if George Collins was a visitor and George Ayres was born 1869 - where is George Ayres in 1871 as he is not with his alleged parents?

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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 22 July 13 18:10 BST (UK) »
1871 shows George b Cold Higham Northants
Thomas = Potcote
John, Mary & Elizabeth = Pattishall
William = Potcote
George = Pattishall

George is shown as Ayers - not Collins - but is shown as a visitor

Are you sure that he is George & Ann's son?  What fathers name is given on his marriage cert to Minnie?
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #7 on: Monday 22 July 13 18:12 BST (UK) »
Difficult to know whether the children are surname Collins or Ayers.  Thomas is shown as Thomas Collins and the enumerator has then dittoed Ayers from Ann's surname so it looks like Thomas Collins Ayers.  All others are similarly dittoed
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Re: Gypsy, Traveller, Circus, Fairground Folks - George Ayres and Minnie Smith
« Reply #8 on: Monday 22 July 13 18:18 BST (UK) »
Married as Ayers - not Ayres

Marriages March qtr 1861
   
George Ayers   Towcester  3b 21   
Ann Collins   Towcester  3b 21
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