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McAvoy or MacVoy family
« on: Tuesday 23 July 13 18:19 BST (UK) »
Hi there.
I am trying to trace Peter McAvoy, apparently born in Canada in 1865(ish).  He married Elizabeth Jane Thomas in 1886 in Thornaby, Yorkshire and they had quite a few children back here in the UK.
Apparently he was one of the early mounties.

Any info on him or his parents would be amazing.
Thanks.


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Re: McAvoy or MacVoy family
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 July 13 18:57 BST (UK) »
He married in 1889 not 1886

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Apparently he was one of the early mounties.

Have you read the information given in your previous post?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,654701.10.html

Reply #15 1871 census shows Peter/Patrick aged 6 and living in Durham where he remained as he is on later censuses either with his parents or his wife.

Yes he was born in Canada but realistically how could he have been in the Mounties when at 6yrs old and onwards he was living in Durham?


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Re: McAvoy or MacVoy family
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 July 13 20:43 BST (UK) »
Fair point. Well waiting on his marriage certificate, then to find out what HIS father did - seems more likely.  Thanks for this head up.

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Re: McAvoy or MacVoy family
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 July 13 22:22 BST (UK) »
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Well waiting on his marriage certificate, then to find out what HIS father did - seems more likely


But you already know what his father did - the marriage cert will show his fathers occupation at the time of the marriage (ie) 1889 - not for years beforehand as far back as 1865.

Census info shows he was a Chelsea Pensioner and Customs man
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Re: McAvoy or MacVoy family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 July 13 02:16 BST (UK) »
The Northwest Mounted Police were formed in 1873 and became the RCMP in 1904.

The military file for Arthur McAvoy which was mentioned in the thread Carole posted a link to says that Arthur served in Canada with the Royal Artillery for almost 8 years between 1862 and 1870. He was discharged in Hartlepool in 1872.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: McAvoy or MacVoy family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 July 13 12:49 BST (UK) »
Unfortunately yes.
What a shame - would have loved to have the honour of a mountie.
Not to belittle what he did - he rose through the ranks.  I wonder what the Royal Artillery was doing in Canada, who would they have been fighting?

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« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 July 13 14:36 BST (UK) »
I wonder what the Royal Artillery was doing in Canada, who would they have been fighting?

From the Library and Archives Canada website:

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The British government stationed British Army regiments in Canada for its defence from the close of the Seven Years' War (1763) until 1871. Generally, these forces were garrisoned in fortifications such as those found in Quebec, Kingston and Halifax and could be augmented from time to time by reinforcements from Britain in response to war scares, rebellion and war itself. As well, a permanent fleet base was maintained in Halifax for the Royal Navy.

In the late 1860s, the British government decided that as colonial governments were now responsible for governing their own territory, they should also be responsible for their own defence.

By 1871, all British garrisons had been removed, either returning to Britain or sent to duty in other Imperial outposts. Their places were taken by a new Canadian Permanent Force, at first composed of only two batteries of artillery, and later expanded to include other elements such as cavalry and infantry. These were to be supplemented by militia units in emergencies.

Keep in mind Canada became an independent country in 1867.

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Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz