Author Topic: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine  (Read 4517 times)

Offline sallsf

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« on: Saturday 03 August 13 22:43 BST (UK) »
hi new to this site so please be patient with me  :)
    I'm the great grand daughter of Amy wellings daughter of Alfred wellings son of William wellings
Ive be searching answers for 20years + I was told by my nan Ethel (Amy's Daughter ) that in her family was a man called Albert wellings whom I was lead to believe he was a hangs man / executioner
 I know quite a bit about my ancestors but seem to come to a Holt where Albert comes in to it
I also was told that if he was a hangs man /executioner that some files /info would be limited so any information would be gratefully received

xx

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 72,970
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 03 August 13 22:46 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat

Can you give some details of birthyears etc for Amy/Alfred
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 72,970
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 03 August 13 22:52 BST (UK) »
Quote
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine


Do you mean Prescot in Lancashire?  There is an Amy Wellings living in Rainhill in 1891 with parents Alfred & Anna

Alfred was from Shrewsbury
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 72,970
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:01 BST (UK) »
Hi

Even if Albert was a hangman - it would not be found as his occupation on any census entry.  You would have to rely on him being famous enough to be "Googled"

The father of Albert Pierrepoint was a hangman but his census occupation was furniture upholsterer
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)


Offline sallsf

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:03 BST (UK) »
ill get them out tomorrow with exact dates ...
yes that's what I ment sorry !!
Amy was Alfred and Anna daughter Amy married  john davies baines

I couldn't find anything in the studies library but they said maybe he would be in the main office recorded ??

xx

Offline sallsf

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:34 BST (UK) »
NameAlfred Wellings
Birth Year1853
Birthplace Helerdon Heath, Shropshire, England

Name: Anna   
 Birth Year: 1851 
 Birthplace: Whitfield, Staffordshire, England   
 Address: Holt Lane 
 Event Place: Rainhill, 

Offline sallsf

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 10
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:37 BST (UK) »
NameAmy Wellings
Date1891
Birthplace Rainhill, Lancashire

Offline CaroleW

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 72,970
  • Barney 1993-2004
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

Without knowing where or when Albert was born - it's impossible to determine the right person.

The 1901 census has only 2 Albert Wellings born in Shropshire but they were infants at that time

That type of occupation is unlikely to be shown on a census entry

The 1901 website below shows occupations but as you will see - there were only 15 entries for that name and only 2 of them were over 21yrs old

http://www.1901censusonline.com/

Re: your reply above - That is the census date - Amy was actually born in 1882
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

Offline garstonite

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 12,013
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 03 August 13 23:43 BST (UK) »
Quote
Re: wellings -from shropshire/ prescot /eldine


Do you mean Prescot in Lancashire?  There is an Amy Wellings living in Rainhill in 1891 with parents Alfred & Anna

Alfred was from Shrewsbury
Alfred Wellings and family in Rainhill
how old is Amy in 1891 census ??
all resident Rainhill and baptised St Mary the Virgin ,Prescot - children of Alfred and Annie ??
Annie Elizabeth 1882
Phoebe 1883
Emma 1885
then a big gap ...could they have moved away ?  was Amy born between these years
Osborne 1893
Gertrude 1895

Alfred is a Collier .......is this the family you have found ??...is Amy actually born Emma ??
or is this the wrong family ??
ADDED...Carole - we posted the same time - do you think Annie Elizabeth is actually Amy - if not - that`s the wrong family I presume - those 5 baptisms with dates are on
www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford