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Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« on: Monday 05 August 13 20:20 BST (UK) »
I am now trying to find the Children of Thomas Sullivan and Ellen Rowan.
Ellen M Sullivan was born in Barbados in 1865. I think she is the daughter of the above.
On the 1871 census there is a Mary Ellen Sullivan listed in the Union Workhouse Clifton York aged 4 a pauper born Barbados. She is in the same workhouse as Ellen Sullivan aged 41 and Jane Sullivan aged 9 months but they are not listed together.
I would like to find Ellen Sullivan born in Barbados on the 1881-1891 census and Jane on the 1881 census.
In 1891 Jane is now Jane English married to George English living in Thornaby
Any help would be appreciated.
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Dalton,French,Elwes Lincolnshire
Reed,Mcquillan,Sullivan,Ruan Ireland
Hollingworth,Watson,Newill Leeds
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Ellar,Pryer,Ingledew
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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 August 13 22:58 BST (UK) »
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I would like to find Ellen Sullivan born in Barbados on the 1881-1891 census and Jane on the 1881 census

The 1881 census is free to search yourself at  https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1321821
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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 05:37 BST (UK) »
Yes I have already checked the 1881 and 1891 census over and over. I  just thought i fresh pair of eyes might help. Or any other help for that matter
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Brown,Jude,Hubbard,Bailey,Anderson Norfolk
Dalton,French,Elwes Lincolnshire
Reed,Mcquillan,Sullivan,Ruan Ireland
Hollingworth,Watson,Newill Leeds
English,Bryant,Powell,Lee
Beeby,Robson
Ellar,Pryer,Ingledew
Dearing,Hailer,Simpson

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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 08:37 BST (UK) »
Hi again,
Just for information for others, here is the thread re Thomas and Ellen http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=655371.0

I notice there is a a john Sullivan born Malta in the workhouse also but can't recall whether he has been discussed also. It looks as though the birth is on Find My Past armed forces births.

There may be workhouse records.

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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 11:07 BST (UK) »
I saw the birth for John i will have to investigate that one furthur. Unfortunately for me York Library hold the records i am looking for (i think) and they are closed at the moment.
Can i get them on line do you know.
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Brown,Jude,Hubbard,Bailey,Anderson Norfolk
Dalton,French,Elwes Lincolnshire
Reed,Mcquillan,Sullivan,Ruan Ireland
Hollingworth,Watson,Newill Leeds
English,Bryant,Powell,Lee
Beeby,Robson
Ellar,Pryer,Ingledew
Dearing,Hailer,Simpson

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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 11:22 BST (UK) »
I looked at York archives but they don't seem to be online records and as you say much of the documents are unavailable due to the closure :(
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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 11:27 BST (UK) »
I wonder if something happened to Thomas for her to end up in the workhouse as a pauper. She obviously travelled with him previously.
I can't see Any if them in 1881. George English was in York in 1881 so the couple could have moved together or individually anytime. I can't see his family either in 1891.
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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 12:20 BST (UK) »

In 1891 Jane is now Jane English married to George English living in Thornaby


George H. English and Jane claim to be married in the 1891 census, but FreeBMD suggests the actual marriage was the following year.

Marriage, Mar qtr 1892

George Henry ENGLISH
Jane SULLIVAN

on the same page, Middlesbrough 9d 745.

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Re: Help looking for Ellen and Jane Sullivan
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 August 13 12:35 BST (UK) »
Good find.  If you have the certificate, Reedy, who were the witnesses?
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