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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 18 August 13 00:50 BST (UK) »
Just a thought.......were his parents/mother alive in 1911?
If so, did the 1911 Census record state the children born to her alive and the number of those still living? 

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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 18 August 13 12:35 BST (UK) »
Thanks Kiwihalfpint - must remember to check other transcription ideas of names. Cheers

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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 18 August 13 12:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Ambly,  No...James' father died in 1894 and his mother in 1895 (Scotland)
I have checked the 1881 and 1891 census.
The 1891 census shows the family as follows:  Walter (father) Sarah (mother)
James 14 yrs. William 12, Walter 10, Charles 8, Sarah 4 and Robert 2.
James is recorded as a 14 year old scholar. So, I don't know his occupation.  Did he go to sea as a seaman or was he on the ship to go to Australia/New Zealand etc.
I know Sarah and Walter came to live in Australia. 
Will have to try and check the 1911 census next.  Thanks for your help

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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 18 August 13 17:24 BST (UK) »
hi
gro general records office , marine deaths are those that have died at sea either on board ship or drowning .
as to the William adamson I can,t find anything about her mostly I think as there was a shipbuilding family called adamson and one of them was a William adamson who was building ships on the tyne in this period also short bros also building on the tyne called one of there ships William adamson but again I haven,t found any specific info on it .
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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #13 on: Monday 19 August 13 02:06 BST (UK) »
Others believe he may have settled in Australia.

Have you considered posting a request on the Aussie Board?
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?board=165.0

There's a mention in this cutting of a James M Malcolm
http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/29841681 The Advertiser, 16 Oct 1930

RChat's South Australia Resources Board
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=280572.0

And there's this one too  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=368728.0

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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #14 on: Monday 19 August 13 11:59 BST (UK) »
hi all
just had a look in new Zealand death records and although 26 james malcolms with various middle names if the birth year we have is correct the none of the 26 are a close match for this james , so looked at archway nz for a general look up and the only records that may have some bearing are for probate several james malcolms show but problem is the records in question can only be viewed in archive office  ! .
so looked in aus archives in name search and couldn,t see any close records , the biggest problem is that with his name , james Morrison Malcolm they could all be surnames or Christian names or middle names the computer doesn,t distinguish between them so throws up everything with any of the names , so no definite hits .
anyone else want to try it may be me doing something wrong .
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ps also looked in papers past again nothing comes up
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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #15 on: Monday 19 August 13 12:54 BST (UK) »
Thanks t mo, I appreciate you looking in New Zealand  & Australian records.I agree it makes searching so much longer when the names are all possible surnames as well as Christian names.
It seems James' disappearance still remains a mystery.  Would it be possible to  find passenger or crew lists of ships leaving England/Scotland?  Maybe he is listed on a ship - a least we would then know when he left UK and where he was heading.  Are there any shipping 'experts' out there??

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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #16 on: Monday 19 August 13 13:13 BST (UK) »
When did Walter and Sarah come to Australia and where did they go?

Unfortunately losing contact with family after emigration was all too common. NZ and Australia newspapers often had adverts where family members tried to re-establish contact, sometimes only knowing that a person was supposed to have sailed on ship X into port Y some years ago.

As to the accuracy of death certificates - when people don't know the details then they are just put down to the best of the informants' knowledge. So age could be off, other details missing or incorrect.  If he was going by plain James Malcolm then he might be nearly impossible to find.  If he died in Australia or NZ (or aboard the William Adamson), but the people registering his death didn't know much about him, then the records could be sparse enough that you won't be able to prove it's him.  e.g. it could just be the death of a James Malcolm, born Scotland, with an approximate age and no parents' names.

Lists of passengers leaving are on findmypast among other places - lists for crew are trickier, you could try http://www.findmypast.co.uk/search/clip-crew-lists but I don't see any obvious hits for him.
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Re: James Morrison Malcolm
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 August 13 08:56 BST (UK) »
hi all
I,ve taken the liberty of asking our resident expert on crew matters to take a look if anyone  can find james as a seaman he will .
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