margaret mary davies Who was her mother

[anneelaine]

Hi looking to find who Margaret Mary Davies
Age in 1911:   1
Estimated Birth Year:   abt 1910
Relation to Head:   Granddaughter
Gender:   Female
Birth Place:   Llanrwst, Denbighshire, Wales
Civil Parish:   Trefriw
County/Island:   Denbighshire
Country:   Wales
Street Address:   Bryn Pair Trefriw, Carnavonshire
Registration District:   Llanrwst
Registration District Number:   624
Sub-registration District:   Bettws y Coed
ED, institution, or vessel:   09
Household Schedule Number:   150
Piece:   34194
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Catherine Davies   52
Gwilym Jorwerth Davies   18
Thomas Owen Davies   13
Margaret Mary Davies   1
Mary Alice Owen   23
THANKS
Anneelaine




 


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[Gadget]

Hi

So far, I don't see a Margaret Mary Davies birth registration (1909-1910)  on either the Eng & Wales GRO index or the North Wales BMD in the Llanrwst RD or other close RDs. There are quite a  few Margaret Davies over the two years and a Margaret Ann Davies, Llanrwst 1909 but no Margaret Mary, so it's difficult.

There is a Margaret M registered in Llanrhaeadr yng Nghinmeirch in 1910 on the North Wales BMD. The GRO index has this as Dec q, 1910, Ruthin RD. It could be but Llanrhaeadr Y N is a way from Llanrwst. It is possible that Catherine got her granddaughter's birth place wrong.
 
Nothing is showing on the Family Search baptisms  so it's not likely that FindMyPast has one either.

On the 1901 at RG13/5243/66/6 Bryn Rodyn, Trefriw,  there are three daughters and one son who could be Margaret's parent:

Owen Davies, hd, 42, wheelwright, bGlan Conway
Catherine Davies, w, 44,b. Eglwysbach
Hugh Davies, s, 18,  wheelwright, b. Glan Conway
Mary C Davies, d, 16, b. Llanrwst
Elizabeth E Davies, 13, b. Trefriw
Jane A Davies, d, 11, b. do
and the younger children

It might be worth you following up these 4 to see if there are any clues. 

Sorry but my internet connection is very slow so it's taking a long  time to just do one simple search.


Gadget

[Gadget]

From other info, I don't think that Hugh was the father

Do you have any marriage information for Margaret?  There's a possible marriage for her in 1934, assuming she might have stayed in the same area:

Margaret M Davies and Hugh Davies
Sept q, 1934, Llanrwst. 11b 705


Gadget

Added - North Wales BMD has Hugh Davies marrying a Margaret Maud Davies in 1934 but in Corwen  not Llanrwst - I've cross checked 

[Gadget]

I see that you've been given some info on this family here:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=645485.0

Do you suspect that Jane Ann or Elizabeth was Margaret's mother or could it be the other sister, Mary C ?


Gadget

[Gadget]

To help you chase up the possible mother, this looks like Mary Catherine:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X75W-PMZ

I'm still trying to find the other two!


Gadget

[Gadget]

Just found a possible birth registration  for a Margaret Mary Davies, Llanrwst on the North Wales BMD in 1908 Local ref is RWST/27/39*

It is possible that Catherine might have got her grandaughter's age slightly wrong.


Gadget

*GRO Rf - Dec q, 1908, Llanrwst, 11b p291

[anneelaine]

Hi Gadget
Thinking now maybe Elizabeth E Davies, or Jane Ann Davies was the mother to Margaret Mary Davies
Lost do not know were do i go from here,
only found her a few weeks ago
Mmmmm it could be Gwilym Iorwerth Davies  child?
His wife could have passed in child birth I will try know to find out he ever got married.

I have found this
NAME:    Margaret M Davies
SPOUSE:    Mawson
MARRIAGE:    date - city, Caernarvonshire
OTHER:    mm year
Will go into the library to see what i can fined out
 

Thanks
Aneelaine

[Gadget]

Hello Anne 

I'll have to have a think about this. I'm a bit busy with housing moves, etc. at the moment and would welcome any (less busy) other members' contributions/thoughts.

Gadget

[fairlane]

Response from someone with more time on their hands as requested by Gadget 

Have been reading your other thread - if Jane Ann was shunned by the family for having a baby out of wedlock in 1916 it seems unlikely that a granddaughter born out of wedlock in 1908 or thereabouts would have been welcomed?? Perhaps look for daughter of one of the boys who was married.

Or was the 1916 child Jane's second slip up?

Fairlane