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Offline Neale1961

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #54 on: Monday 03 October 22 23:23 BST (UK) »
In the 1861 census, at Backhill, New Pitsligo, are
James Cowie, 60, farmer
Agnes Cowie, wife, 60
Jane Fraser, daughter, married, 26, miller's wife
Agnes Duff, granddaughter 5
Alex Fraser, Grandson, 8 months

Same family in 1871
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026e98e9379091b1ea9bfc/thirlow-fraser-1871-aberdeenshire-new-pitsligo-1827-?locale=en


This is the birth record that you are after, available from Scotlands People
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

COWIE,  ALEXANDER
M
1860
227/B 61
New Pitsligo
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
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Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #55 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 00:16 BST (UK) »
Neale1961
Thank you for this.

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #56 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 01:38 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this information. This info is starting to open up a lot of detail.
I see these census records aren't showing Denburn Mills.  Do these mills fall under a group?

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #57 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 01:50 BST (UK) »
I am adding a link to the 1861 census that Forfarian quoted, because it is so interesting.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026b4be9379091b1dce161/james-cowie-1861-aberdeenshire-new-pitsligo-1800-?locale=en

You will see that Jane Fraser (nee Cowie) also has a daughter Agnes who has the surname Duff in this census, and the surname Fraser in the 1871 census.
Agnes was born 26 April 1855 New Deer. When she marries she names her father as James Duff, farm servant and mother Jane Cowie, married to Thurlow Fraser, miller.

This is your Cowie family in the 1841 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a13ffdcf4040b9d6ee3a403/james-cowie-1841-aberdeenshire-new-deer-1800-?locale=en

and in 1851
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902666ae9379091b1c8d71c/agnes-cowie-1851-aberdeenshire-new-deer-1800-?locale=en

In 1851 Jane Cowie was working as a Servant in a house in Fraserburgh
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/590265c6e9379091b1c63823/jane-cowie-1851-aberdeenshire-fraserburgh-1835-?locale=en


Your Alexander Cowie Fraser was born 23 July 1860 in New Pitsligo.

Jane Cowie and Thurlow Fraser were married on 22 Sept 1860 in New Pitsligo.
From the marriage record: Thurlow’s parents were Alexander Fraser, square wright deceased, and Christian Burnett (Bennett? )deceased. Janes parents were James Cowie farmer and Agnes Clyne
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)


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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #58 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 02:05 BST (UK) »
This is so interesting.  Thank you. The family will be thrilled to look through these records.
It's amazing how we have had this brick wall for years and then the Bible ,and the newspaper clipping turned up, and has opened up what seems to be the really family links that we couldn't find.

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #59 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 02:15 BST (UK) »
This is Thurlow Fraser in the 1851 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902666be9379091b1c8dc73/thurlew-fraser-1851-aberdeenshire-new-deer-1826-?locale=en

and in 1861
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026919e9379091b1d3d90b/thurlaw-fraser-1861-aberdeenshire-ellon-1827-?locale=en

Thurlow Fraser died 23 Oct 1889 New Pitsligo. Parents are named on death certificate and agree with marriage, except that his father’s occupation given was “game keeper”

Alexander Fraser and Christian Burnett were married 19 Jan 1806 Fraserburgh.

This would seem to be Thurlow Fraser in 1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14280cf4040b9d6e12ef4e/thirlow-fraser-1841-banffshire-gamrie-1826-?locale=en
It seems likely that Thurlow’s parents were deceased before 1841. The head of house will be an uncle to Thurlow (George born 1814 Fraserburgh), and the Mary Burnett could be a relation on his mother’s side.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #60 on: Tuesday 04 October 22 02:27 BST (UK) »
Jane (Cowie) Fraser died 14 July 1917 New Pitsligo.

Jane Cowie’s baptism record from Scotlands People:
COWIE, Jane   05/02/1837   new Deer
Parents: James Cowie and Agnes Clynne
Ref    30 248

Her parents James and Agnes married 7 April 1821 New Deer.
James Cowie died 18 April 1866 New Pitsligo
Agnes (Clyne) Cowie died 9 June 1876 New Pitsligo
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #61 on: Wednesday 05 October 22 00:44 BST (UK) »
I see these census records aren't showing Denburn Mills.  Do these mills fall under a group?

I imagine the mill was named Denburn Mill, because it was situated on the small stream called “Den Burn”.
See the information on the old Ordinance Survey that Den Burn and the Corn Mill are recorded together in Parish of Tyrie [New Pitsligo]. Scroll down the page to the bottom to find the link to the map
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/aberdeenshire-os-name-books-1865-1871/aberdeenshire-volume-90/39
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)

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Re: The name "Thirlow" or Thurlow Fraser
« Reply #62 on: Wednesday 05 October 22 02:44 BST (UK) »
In the 1851 census the address for James Cowie and family is "Backhill Of Overhill", New Deer.
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This is Little Mill in Ellon where Thurlow Fraser was working at time of 1861 census.
https://scotlandsplaces.gov.uk/digital-volumes/ordnance-survey-name-books/aberdeenshire-os-name-books-1865-1871/aberdeenshire-volume-29/148
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland)