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(more) Ruthin look-ups
« on: Friday 30 August 13 22:23 BST (UK) »
I'm having a hard time tracking down a John Jones and wondered if anyone with access to parish records could see if there is a likely John Jones born in Ruthin ca.1705-1715 before I commit to buy parish record booklets!

There are a few on familysearch here: https://familysearch.org/search/record/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJohn~%20%2Bsurname%3AJones~%20%2Bbirth_place%3ARuthin%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1705-1715~

annoyingly lacking father's names!

Likely names for father would be: Richard, John, Robert, Thomas or Henry.

Thank you for your time!

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Re: (more) Ruthin look-ups
« Reply #1 on: Friday 30 August 13 22:37 BST (UK) »
30 Jun 1705 - Roger
30 Mar 1707 - Francis
3 July 1707 - Rice
19 Feb 1709 - Johannis
12 Sep 1710 - Thomas
27 Mar 1712 - Richardi
13 Feb 1714 - Johannis
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: (more) Ruthin look-ups
« Reply #2 on: Friday 30 August 13 22:41 BST (UK) »
thanks again Deirdre! :) I'll have a look at these and see if any are possible!

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Re: (more) Ruthin look-ups
« Reply #3 on: Friday 30 August 13 22:51 BST (UK) »
Do the middle three (John 1709, Thomas 1710 and Richard 1712) have mother's names?

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 30 August 13 23:06 BST (UK) »
Afraid not....
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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Re: (more) Ruthin look-ups
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 31 August 13 01:45 BST (UK) »
Think I've found father now - there's a will for a Thomas Jones in 1774, so would mean he died about 84 if the John born 1710 is his son - not impossible though as John lived to his 80s too.

As a final lookup, I wonder if you could please see if there are these/other children born to Thomas in Ruthin post 1710 (will says that John was eldest):

08 Aug 1717 - Richard Jones (only likely one)
03 Jan 1718  - Henry Jones (only likely one)
11 March 1710 - Thomas Jones (few possibilities)
17 June 1715 - "
28 September 1716 - "
16 August 1719 - "

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Re: (more) Ruthin look-ups
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 August 13 14:36 BST (UK) »
Richardus Thoma Jones fil : Bapt Augusti 8 (1717)  :)
No Henry in 1718
Thomas:
11 Mar 1710 - father Johanis
17 Jun 1715 - father Ricei?
28 Sept 1716 - father Eduardi
16 Aug 1719 - image hard to read but transcription says father Robert and mother May

Deirdre
CARDIFF:Lord,Griffiths,Barry,Cope,Mahoney ~ PEMBROKESHIRE:Griffiths,Rees,Owen,Thomas ~ ESSEX:Lord,Foreman,Hatch ~ SOMERSET:Lord,Cox,Hockey,Linham,Bryant ~ STAFFORDSHIRE:Cope,Elks,Hackney,Gallimore,Davenport ~ SUFFOLK:Lord,Lockwood,Hatch,Rix,Foreman ~ IRELAND:Barry,Meany,Cummins,Grogan ~
PONTYPRIDD:Leigh,Brooks,Adams,Davies,Thomas ~ KENT:Leigh ~ CHESHIRE:Adams,Tudor,Illidge ~ DENBIGHSHIRE:Edwards,Bolas ~BRECON:Leigh,Thomas,Davies ~SOMERSET:Adams,Keitch,Bridge ~ABERGAVENNY:Minton ~ MERTHYR:.....

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 August 13 17:16 BST (UK) »
Thanks Deirdre this is a great help!

Henry isn't actually mentioned as a son just John Richard and Thomas but they may not have lived to his will in 1770s.

Thanks again!

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 06 September 13 21:07 BST (UK) »
To renew this thread, I've been looking at quite a few wills and I think it's more likely that my John Jones was baptised in Llanfwrog (just outside Ruthin) ca.1700-1715 - could somebody please see which John Joneses are born between these years so I can start the elimination process again?

Thank you!