Father of William John Beggs, married to Jane Cunningham, 1870s

[Peggy13]

Robert James Beggs was born Oct 30, 1879 in Grange, Co. Antrim. According to familysearch, his parents were William John Beggs and Jane Cunningham. William John died in Ballynashee. I would like to know the father of William John and thought it should be on his marriage record probably in the 1870s. Thanks for any help.
Peggy

[BallyaltikilliganG]

 There are five William Beggs listed in BALLYNASHEE townland in 1862, with
Map refs 7A, 7B, 7C, 8A  ,8B in Griffiths valuation see http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index
There are several other Williams living elsewhere in Co Antrim

Have you searched the wills etc at PRONI
good luck onwards JimG

[Peggy13]

Thank you Jim for this information. I have found the will of William John on Proni and I am fairly sure it is the correct one as probate was granted to Robert James Beggs. However, there are no images online to actually see the will and verify that the wife was Jane Cunningham. Routinely, the will would not have William's father's name and that is why I was looking for the marriage. William died Sept 30, 1931. I did check the 1901 and 1911 censii and did not find William John there, hoping that his father just might be living with him.
Peggy

[aghadowey]

First problem is finding the marriage record- did a search for Begg*/Cunningham on UHF site and no result for William & Jane's marriage. Perhaps someone else will be able to locate it.

There are lots of Wills for Beggs, Ballynashee in PRONI Will Extracts- might be worth ghoing through them all and seeing what could link in.

Here's the correct link to Griffith's Valuation- there are not five William Beggs in the townland of Ballynashee but multiple listing for the name (7A/B/C, 8A/B are all part of one holding)-
http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

[Elwyn Soutter]

I note from the 1911 census that William John’s daughter Elizabeth was born in America, when William John would have been about 26. Could he and Jane have married there? That might be why the marriage isn’t showing up in records in Ireland.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Antrim/Rashee/Ballynashee/107501/

[aghadowey]

If Elisabeth was born c1876 in U.S. and Robert James in 1879 Co.Antrim it may be difficult to find the family in U.S. without knowing at least the state when they were living.

[aghadowey]

A possiblity? Jane daughter of William J. & Jane Beggs born 1876 Philadelphia-
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VBB1-8FW

There's a William J. Beggs, carpenter, at 925 So. 13th St., Philadelphia in 1875 directory.

[Peggy13]

Thank you everyone for all your help. I did look at the Griffith's Valuation and did find William Beggs in Ballynashee with the 5 pieces of property. The will on Proni for William John Beggs stated he was from Ballynashee, farmer. The 1911 census for the only William John was also in Ballynashee. Elizabeth was age 35 born in America and the Eliza on familysearch was born 1875 so right age with right parents names - too bad they didn't give Jane's maiden name and that would have really been a done deal. William was a carpenter in Philly but could have changed occupation. Seems to all fit.  Robert James was born in 1879, Grange. Is Grange in Ballynashee?
Thanks again for all the help.

[Elwyn Soutter]

Is Grange in Ballynashee?

Ballynashee is in the parish of Rashee. The adjacent parish is Grange of Doagh, so possibly that’s the place of birth. There are however several other places in Co Antrim with Grange in their name so you cannot exclude them without further evidence. (Grange generally indicated a place was Church land at one time).

http://www.thecore.com/cgi-bin/iresrch