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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #216 on: Sunday 13 April 25 12:32 BST (UK) »
There is quite a well documented tree on ancestry for this family.
Father Markus Hans Markuson1861–1944
Birth 19 JAN 1861 Copenhagen, Kobenhavn, Denmark
02 JAN 1944 • Rochester, Olmsted, Minnesota, USA

Mother Pennella Nelson 1861–1901
Birth 09 JAN 1861 • Norway
Death 07 MAR 1901 • Henning, Otter Tail County, Minnesota, USA >:(

Martin Markuson and wife Emily nee Veal emigrated back to the US and both died there in New York.

No Gordon recorded as a brother only an Alfred and a Henry.

I think this is a completely different lineage to mine but thank you for the insight.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #217 on: Sunday 13 April 25 14:03 BST (UK) »

... BIGAMY ALLEGED Mr Markerson, Engineer, Enfield Avenue, Leeds, who pleaded not guilty and reserved his defence, was committed for trial at the Assizes in Leeds today om a charge of bigamy. Mr.
N. C. Haslegrave, prosecuting, said Markerson was married at Aylesbury ...

Published: Friday 09 August 1946
Newspaper: Yorkshire Evening Post
County: Yorkshire, England


Just in case you haven't been able to access the newspapers the rest of the above article says

... in 1934. There were four children of the legal marriage.
While serving in the Army he was stationed at Leeds in 1944
and there met Norah Reddington,  a single woman then
living ain Woodhouse Lane. They went through a form of marriage
at St Anne's Cathedral in Sept 1945. Accused then used the name of Markinson
Norah Reddington, in evidence, said "we have been very happy together.
It is my intention to stick by him until this matter is over"


and this was published later:

 Yorkshire Evening Post 20 Nov 1946, page 8 col 3
BOUND OVER FOR BIGAMY
Gordon Roland Markerson (44), motor engineer, Enfield Avenue,
was bound over for 12 months at Leeds Assizes today, on a charge
of bigamy with Norah Reddington. The bigamous marriage took
place at St Anne's Cathedral, Leeds, on Sept 10 1945

Boo

I don’t know how accurate the information compiled from Ancestry.com is, I guess, as much as the information input from associated families, but looking into the hints from the MARKERSON side from GORDON (my grandfather) to his first wife PHYLLIS in 1934, there were 4 connected children:
ERNEST W O (1934 - 2022),
REGINALD J (1945 a 2010),
CHRISTINA M (CHANDLER) (1933 - 2016),
PHYLLIS J (1937 - 1999)

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #218 on: Monday 14 April 25 10:50 BST (UK) »
Hi Dan,

Just seen this shared by Glen in Tinsel Kni:

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=890809.msg7647252#msg7647252

£29 is the best price I've seen.

Tony.
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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #219 on: Monday 14 April 25 11:00 BST (UK) »
How do they work in terms of connecting to others?
Do I just get mine done and link it and then hope others match up in time etc?
Approaching prior I don’t know but suspects are part of my lineage and asking them “are btw, would you mind getting a DNA test with me please?” seems intrusive and weird.


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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #220 on: Monday 14 April 25 11:51 BST (UK) »

... BIGAMY ALLEGED Mr Markerson, Engineer, Enfield Avenue, Leeds, who pleaded not guilty and reserved his defence, was committed for trial at the Assizes in Leeds today om a charge of bigamy. Mr.
N. C. Haslegrave, prosecuting, said Markerson was married at Aylesbury ...

Published: Friday 09 August 1946
Newspaper: Yorkshire Evening Post
County: Yorkshire, England


Just in case you haven't been able to access the newspapers the rest of the above article says

... in 1934. There were four children of the legal marriage.
While serving in the Army he was stationed at Leeds in 1944
and there met Norah Reddington,  a single woman then
living ain Woodhouse Lane. They went through a form of marriage
at St Anne's Cathedral in Sept 1945. Accused then used the name of Markinson
Norah Reddington, in evidence, said "we have been very happy together.
It is my intention to stick by him until this matter is over"


and this was published later:

 Yorkshire Evening Post 20 Nov 1946, page 8 col 3
BOUND OVER FOR BIGAMY
Gordon Roland Markerson (44), motor engineer, Enfield Avenue,
was bound over for 12 months at Leeds Assizes today, on a charge
of bigamy with Norah Reddington. The bigamous marriage took
place at St Anne's Cathedral, Leeds, on Sept 10 1945

Boo

I don’t know how accurate the information compiled from Ancestry.com is, I guess, as much as the information input from associated families, but looking into the hints from the MARKERSON side from GORDON (my grandfather) to his first wife PHYLLIS in 1934, there were 4 connected children:
ERNEST W O (1934 - 2022),
REGINALD J (1945 a 2010),
CHRISTINA M (CHANDLER) (1933 - 2016),
PHYLLIS J (1937 - 1999)

Ancestry hints are just that, they'd need to be checked out before taking them as definite.
Checking on  https://www.freebmd.org.uk for these births will show the mother's maiden name Search for births Mark*son mothers maiden name Oakley between 1933 and 1945 brings up 4 results, all registered Aylesbury. Ernest, Reginald and Phyllis check out, plus an Evelyn born  in 1940.

The Christina M Chandler born 1933 birth comes up as registered in Battersea mmn Dunne - seems very odd as a 'hint' - which proves that these hints need to be checked :-)

Boo

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #221 on: Monday 14 April 25 12:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks Boo.
Christina was actually the wife of one of the brothers, Ernest. I’d got that wrong as the hints generated double entries in at some stages, see right hand side of this image.
The lineage to the left is obviously what I know from my own side.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #222 on: Monday 14 April 25 12:14 BST (UK) »
Maybe I need to look deeper into how to correctly use these sites to ratify this information.
I can see how easily you can end up going in a completely different direction down the wrong tree.

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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #223 on: Monday 14 April 25 23:51 BST (UK) »
How do they work in terms of connecting to others?
Do I just get mine done and link it and then hope others match up in time etc?
Approaching prior I don’t know but suspects are part of my lineage and asking them “are btw, would you mind getting a DNA test with me please?” seems intrusive and weird.


Hi again, sorry for delay in getting back,

I'll try and set down how I think DNA could help with this even without tracking down strangers and asking them to test (at least to begin with!  ;D). I'm very much still in the beginners club with DNA but I have had some success with a couple of puzzles.

The most useful person to test for this would be your Dad if he is willing. If funds allow getting one for yourself too would be useful. The test kits arrive by post and after registering with Ancestry you send off the saliva sample. About six weeks later the results are available to view.

The most useful to you will be the match list. This shows everyone you share DNA with from closest to furthest. The higher the cM number the closer the relationship. The fun part is working out how you connect.

Say for example you are working with your Dad's match list. Ancestry will have assigned each match as 'parent 1' or 'parent 2' (there will also be some that are 'unassigned' - worry about those later!). This has split the matches into maternal and paternal sides but at first you won't know which is which.

Imagine then that the closest match to your dad is "Ethel" and she is assigned to 'parent 1'. Luck is on your side and you know that "Ethel" is the grandaughter of Nora Reddington's sister. Now 'parent 1' can be marked as maternal and Ancestry's system will automatically mark 'parent 2' as paternal. Anyone in this paternal group will be from Gordon's family.

Imagine now that the closest match in the paternal group is "John". You can then look to see who are the closest shared matches with him and they are "Brenda", "Tom" and "Mike". I'd start to look at any trees that these four may have - what I'm looking to work out is how they relate to each other and then work back to a common ancestor that your Dad (and thus Gordon) share with them. It will likely be necessary to build your own version of the tree that connects them.

Along the way any Fred, Rosemary, platelayers for the LNER, horse trainers/breeders, anyone born in Newark or near Arsenal football club would be getting a very hard look  ;D. It will be quite a hard slog and will need some luck too but the circle should tighten and tighten until the origins of Gordon are revealed.

I keep going through your thread and what keeps coming up is that nothing can be found about Gordon before he goes to lodge with the Oakleys in about 1934. No birth record, no census entries, nothing. So unless he stepped off an alien spaceship it seems that he probably started out with a different name. Yours is only half the puzzle - somewhere out there is someone with a Gordon shaped hole in their family tree, and if they've already DNA tested.......

I hope that sort of makes sense. Others here on Rootschat have lots more knowledge than me and will help as you go along.

Best wishes, Tony.

Added: I don't know how I've ended up with the big space at the end! ???

Added: I should mention that to get full access to your match list and make best use of shared matches you will need a paid Ancestry membership and the add on "pro tools" is useful.

































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Re: Grandfather jailed for bigamy - missing link
« Reply #224 on: Tuesday 15 April 25 12:04 BST (UK) »
Exactly what I was about to ask...

I've just been looking at the DNA testing kits that are on offer today at £29. I'm not sure how a £9.99 shipping fee is justified but hey-ho. I'll speak to my dad today and see if he fancies doing one with me - it certainly sounds like it could yield some interesting results.

I've actually got more info from my paternal grandmother's side over in Ireland, NORAH/NORA REDDINGTON. I've found a fair amount of documentation relating to the REDDINGTON side of the family, but as my dad said yesterday, "they didn't have TVs in those days" and according to my dad, NORAH was one of 11 children. The biggest issue I'm finding is being able to decipher the handwriting on the BDMs from the Irish sources. The REDDINGTON family lineage looks huge.

I've been using https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ as well as https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/ in a bid to try and trace the REDDINGTON line.

I did randomly message one of the MARKERSON grandchildren on Facebook, and whilst the initial response was him confirming he was the cousin of the granddaughter I made contact with a few years back, so is definitely of the lineage connected to GORDON's brother ERNEST, he hasn't responded since. I may take a punt and message one of the other connected MARKERSONs from their connected 'Friends' list as they are all obviously part of the same family.

I did start off on the Ancestry free trial membership but ended up signing up to the Essentials at £10.99 a month. I'm finding though that some of the resources it finds and hints require more expensive subscriptions so am toying with upping that the £13.99 Premium membership for now to see what more that yields.

I'll keep this updated in due course but once again, thank you to all who are helping me research, it's a massive if somewhat interesting journey.