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Offline Aussie Derek

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John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« on: Thursday 19 September 13 02:43 BST (UK) »
Looking for any info. on the following family..
John Martin c 1841 Dublin
Hannah c 1850 Portsmouth
Clara c 1871 Portsmouth
Ernest Edward c 1872 Kent
Maud c 1875 Kent
John c 1876 Ireland ?
Florence 1880 Ireland ?

In 1871 John, Hannah & Clara are on the 1871 English Census, John is with the Army.
In 1891 The family are on the English Census. John is chief warder at the military prison in Chester.
In 1901                       "         Scotland    "          "             "                             "           "  Stirling
In 1911                       "         Irish          "          "  is a gate keeper and on Army Pens. in County Down.

Nothing throws any light in 1881 in England or Scotland. I do know that he was chief warder at the military prison in Cork in 1894.
Any info. on this 1881 period would be appreciated. Thanks from Australia.
WEBB - KENT - Biddenden, Tenterden, Newington.
HORN - KENT - Newington, Faversham.
WHITE - KENT - Wrotham.
NAYLOR - KENT - Hartlip, Rainham.
FILMER - KENT & Worldwide.
CLINCH & HALES - KENT.
HARRIS - ESSEX
DICKINSON - HERTS.
COLLINS - OXFORDSHIRE - LONDON.
BRIMACOMBE, CARDER - OATS - DEVON.
JARVIS - KENT - LONDON.

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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 19 September 13 07:49 BST (UK) »
Hello,

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGF6-G7J shows John's birth in Cork

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/FGVR-1Z4 shows Florence's birth in Limerick.

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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 19 September 13 08:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks for that, I had just found those two births about two hours ago on Irish Births via Ancestry.

Derek
WEBB - KENT - Biddenden, Tenterden, Newington.
HORN - KENT - Newington, Faversham.
WHITE - KENT - Wrotham.
NAYLOR - KENT - Hartlip, Rainham.
FILMER - KENT & Worldwide.
CLINCH & HALES - KENT.
HARRIS - ESSEX
DICKINSON - HERTS.
COLLINS - OXFORDSHIRE - LONDON.
BRIMACOMBE, CARDER - OATS - DEVON.
JARVIS - KENT - LONDON.

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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 19 September 13 18:46 BST (UK) »
Hi Aussie Derek, you appear to know which prisons he worked in, don't you know if he was Royal Artillery etc, or dragoons etc. and what rank is a chief warder in a prison. I came across John Martin a Sergeant Major of the Royal Artillery in 1877 in an army index on www.forces-war-records.co.uk. non commissioned officers are probably listed annually in the Army index.
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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 00:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
John Martins Daughter Clara married my great grandfather William Wallace in Cork in 1896
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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 00:29 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat
Derek hasn't been on RootsChat since 2014 but may return if he is still receiving email notifications of replies to this thread.
If not we may still be able to help if you tell us what information you are looking for.

Here for example is Clara's marriage cert
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1896/10511/5828591.pdf
And her sister Florence's birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02936/2076054.pdf
You can't fish on a empty stomach so give the man one or two records so he knows how good it tastes.

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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 07:28 BST (UK) »
Parents marriage 1870 in Portsmouth
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QPTF-X61P

as there are no Irish Census available before 1901 there is a good probality they were still in Ireland early 1880s prior to Victoria's birth
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Castlewellan/Clarkill/235471/

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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
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Re: John MARTIN & Family 1871-1891
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 10 July 19 09:46 BST (UK) »

This does not appear to have been mentioned before.

Probable death of John Martin in Newcastle, Co Down in 1921. Informant Albert Martin.  #335
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1921/05107/4403526.pdf

Maybe the death of Hannah Martin in 1934.
D/1934/123/1015/13/84    Hannah Martin    10th January 1934     85     Female     Kilkeel RD
https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/

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