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joseph ansell family
« on: Sunday 22 September 13 23:21 BST (UK) »
Hi All
1911 census

Joseph Ansell age 70 b. Birmingham
Arthur Field Burman 35 son in law
Kate Evelyn Burman 35 Dau
Eleanor Burman 7 granddaughter
Governess
4 Servants
lived in" Oaklands" Wylde Green
would like to find out about the house they lived in
think it could have been pulled down 1950s
must have been large photo if possible or site to get more info
also think the burman/ansell family very well to do and rich
any help with finding out more about the ansell would help
john
ps its an old photo I came across in my parents album
if I could find out any more info it would help me
to know why it was in the album?
so if you could help me many thanks
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Re: joseph ansell family
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 22 September 13 23:43 BST (UK) »
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would like to find out about the house they lived in

Can you be more specific as to exactly what type of info you are looking for?

What is your connection to the family/house?
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday 22 September 13 23:49 BST (UK) »
Have you contacted Warwickshire RO to see if any photo is held of the house?

There are also several public trees on Ancestry which include Joseph & his family.  Perhaps you may be better contacting one of the family members to see if they can help with this info

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Re: joseph ansell family
« Reply #3 on: Monday 23 September 13 07:06 BST (UK) »
You only partially transcribed the 1911 census? You didn't mention the occupations of Joseph and Arthur - which explains their apparent wealth! ;D

I'm not allowed to mention what they are (copyright issues), but it's OK for you to do so.

Anyhow, 1901 census: Class:  RG13; Piece:  2891; Folio:  7; Page:  6.
The Oakland, Wylde Green, Sutton Coldfield

Ansell, Joseph  Head  M  60  Solicitor and JP  b Birmingham
Ansell, Mary Ann  Wife  F  59  b Birmingham (curiously it also says she is a Widow?!)
Ansell, Kate E  Daughter  F  25  b Aston
Edwards, Emma  Lady's Help  F  57  Lady's Help  b Birmingham
Burman, Arthur F  Visitor  M  Single  25  Metal Spinner  b Handsworth, Staffordshire
+ Cook, Housemaid and Coachman

Joseph Ansell was also Town Clerk to Aston Manor
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« Reply #4 on: Monday 23 September 13 07:08 BST (UK) »
From probate index

Joseph Ansell of 'the Oaklands' Wylde Green Sutton Coldfield and of 148 Edmund Street Birmingham, solicitor, died 12 Aug 1923 at 'The Oaklands' Probate 20 Dec to Thomas Ansell, brewer, and Derrick Ansell Clarke and Alfred Inman Sherwin , solicitors 
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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« Reply #5 on: Monday 23 September 13 07:11 BST (UK) »
http://stoz.suttoncoldfieldatoz.com/UVW.html
Scroll down to be the bit on Wylde Green
It confirms Oaklands was demolished in the 1950's
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: joseph ansell family
« Reply #6 on: Monday 23 September 13 07:25 BST (UK) »
So, is this the Joseph Ansell who founded Ansell's Brewery?
Or just a relation to the other Joseph?

Aston Manor is, of course, what is now Villa Park.
Maybe a link to Aston Villa FC also?
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« Reply #7 on: Monday 23 September 13 09:27 BST (UK) »
Sadly it seems son in law Arthur Field Burman did not live long

Probate index entry

Arthur Field Burman of The Oaklands Wylde Green Warwickshire, manufacturer died 6 May 1917 Probate 16 Aug to Kate Evelyn Burman widow and Alfred Inman Sherwin solicitor
Edmonds/Edmunds - mainly Sussex
DeBoo - London
Green - Suffolk
Parker - Sussex
Kemp - Essex
Farrington - Essex
Boniface - West Sussex

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Re: joseph ansell family
« Reply #8 on: Monday 23 September 13 12:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Lizdb/KGarrad/CaroleW

Many thanks to you all for your help and advice
John
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