j. kleinstuber

[*Sandra*]

That is the couple on the census I linked in reply 5.  John was born in New York.

Unfortunately you will have to remove the name of the son and all the names of the grandchildren shown in the obituary, they are living people.

Sandra

[Erato]

Uh oh, looks like I'm late to the party.  [Oh well, it was a good game.]

[cricket2]

Hi All
John Kleinstruber

Thanks to you all for help still hit the wall

Is their any history society in port jervis which I could write
to asking for help I could send some pictures but I do not
know if they are of him
If anyone could look for me in about 1920/25 did anyone
leave from liverpool to port jervis USA on the white star line ship baltic
many thanks john

[shellyesq]

Port Jervis is in Orange County, which has a genealogical society.  http://www.ocgsny.org/index.htm  I believe they charge a fee for any research.

[*Sandra*]

Hi All
John Kleinstuber

Thanks to you all for help still hit the wall


If anyone could look for me in about 1920/25 did anyone
leave from liverpool to port jervis USA on the white star line ship baltic
many thanks john

Sorry, went through a list of Baltic voyages for that period and found no one.

Sandra

[cricket2]

Hi Shellyesq

Thanks so much for your reply will write to them
they have no e-mail contact
john

[Genealiza]

If you are looking for the parentage of John W Kleinstuber who married Ethel in your obit, then it looks like his family came prior to 1870, from Germany.  According to the 1930 census, Ethel, while born in NY, has parents who were born in ENG.  Maybe they took a trip to ENG for their honeymoon to see her family.  There may be passports that were issued to John and Ethel for this trip.


Following the census data backwards:

1930 Census:  Orange County, NY
Kleinstuber, John W b. 1869, NY, GER, GER
                  Ella M , b. 1871, NY, NY, NY
                  John E, son, b. 1905, NY, NY, NY
                  Ethel, dau in law, b. NY, ENG, ENG
                           grandson, b. NY

1920 Census:

1910 Census:  Orange County, NY
Kleinstuber, John W
                  Ella M, mother of 4, 3 living
                  Robert E, 16, b. NY
                  John E, 6, b. NY
                  Carl, 5, b. NY

1900 Census: Orange County, NY
Kleinstuber, John W, b. Sep 1868, b. NY, GER, GER
                  Ella M, b. Aug 1870, b. NY, NY, NY, mother of 2, 2 living
                  Earl, b. Dec 1892, b. NY, NY, NY
                  Philabena, dau, b. Jan 1895, b. NY, NY, NY

Kleinstuber, Phillippine, b. Jan 1844, b. GER, GER, GER
                  Benj, son, b Jun 1878, b. NY
                  Edwin, son, b. Nov 1880, b. NY
                  Louise, dau, b. Nov 1866, b. NY

1880 Census: Orange County, NY
Kleinstuber, John, 47, b. GER
                  Phebe, 36, b. GER
                  Louisa, 15, b. NY
                  Anna, 13, b. NY
                  John W, 11, b. NY
                  Benj C, 1, b. NY               

[cricket2]

Hello Genealiza

Thanks so much for your help and information great news
If you could let me know anything about Ethel parents in England
I could then do some research on them has I no nothing about them
you could send me a PM if it was not possible to post information
thanks so muchyou have been a great help  to me
regards john
ps I have got ethel madain has compton but thats all
is this right

[Genealiza]

link to Ethel's obit:

http://www.riverreporter.com/issues/05-12-15/obits.html

According to her obit, her parents were George and Mary Tupper Hoare.  Ethel was born 9 Oct 1904 in Brooklyn, NY. 

Modified:  not 100% sure the census data was the correct one