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Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« on: Sunday 06 October 13 08:25 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find the names of the parents of, and any other information about, Alexander Howard. I believe he was born in Willoughby on the Wolds, Nottinghamshire, in 1657, and may have died there in March 1708. He married Lydia Dubery there on 13 Jan 1682.  My research on a genealogy website has suggested he was the son of William Howard, Baron Howard of Escrick and his wife Frances Bridgeman, but I am fairly sure this is inaccurate.  I am totally new to Rootschat so any pointers about how to direct my enquiries would also be very useful.

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 October 13 08:48 BST (UK) »
Hi Gally and welcome to Rootschat
so that we don`t go over old ground - what site did you do your research on ?
here is the baptism of their daughter Rebecca
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/NVCL-X2Z

the marriage is on the same site - but can`t find Alexanders baptism - where did you find he was born 1657 ?
Do you know if Baron Howard of Escrick was involved in the Civil War 1642 - 1651 ...if so , was his title taken away from him ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 October 13 08:53 BST (UK) »
It appears Baron Howard of Escrick was named EDWARD - not William ??
1628 - 1675 and he was very active in the Civil War
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Howard,_1st_Baron_Howard_of_Escrick
Succeeded by Thomas Howard in 1675
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 October 13 09:06 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for that Garstonite. The research I have been doing so far has been on the Ancestry website. The details of the marriage are supported by a source citation but the birth and death dates are just suggested in the family tree of another member, (as are the names of his parents as William and Frances.) Baron William seemed to have been quite a controversial character and was indeed involved in the Civil War.  I believe he died in obscurity in York. The family tree which suggests that Alexander was his son, has him as the eldest son, born before William and Frances were married! and when Frances may have only been very young. Also, Alexander seems to have been born in Willoughby, whilst all William's other children seem to have been born in Saffron Walden, as William was. There is a family legend that an ancestor was born illegitimately to a maid, and fathered by a Howard duke but I have found no evidence of this, and I presume there may be none!


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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 October 13 09:11 BST (UK) »
William was the third Baron of Escrick, second son of Edward who was the first Baron. I believe William succeeded his elder brother Thomas.

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 October 13 09:32 BST (UK) »
OK - I am with you now
Edwards mother was plain old Frances Howard - but she married the 2nd Earl of Holderness and after 2 daughters -Diana and Mary - Edward was born and Baron Howard was created 1628
I wonder why he wasn`t named 3rd Earl of Holderness ??? (did he have an older brother)
anyway - I have searched familysearch.org
1650 -1660
baptism
alexander howard
alexander bridgeman
No Results ........
maybe another member can advise ?
oakes,liverpool..neston..backford..poulton cum spittal(bebington)middlewich,cheshire......   sacht,helgoland  .......merrick,herefordshire adams,shropshire...tipping..ellis..  jones,garston,liverpool..hartley.dunham massey..barker. salford

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 October 13 09:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much. I really appreciate your efforts. Alexander's parents are proving to be quite elusive! Thanks again.

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AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley

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Re: Alexander Howard from Willoughby on the Wolds
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 21 September 19 14:05 BST (UK) »
Hi Gally 53,

Thank you for this interesting story, Alexander was my 7th Great grandfather - just how did story conclude?

Kevin