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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 11:43 BST (UK) »
Thanks, i have found the record, i can't really understand it at all, cause i don't read french. found the Jean Constant Smagghe in the middle of the writting tho.

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 12:49 BST (UK) »
I agree French records are a little wordy,but they can be so very informative  :D

Looking at the indexes for Buysscheure
Marriage Pierre Louis Roseau - Catherine Barbe Lucie Smagghe, Buysscheure 16 Feb 1847
(p960-962/1337. Groom born in Merris in 1810, widowed, occupation tailor)
 
Children:
Aimable Gery Auguste Roseau 3 Apr 1848 (p989/1337). Dies 7 Sep 1848. 
Eugénie Coralie Roseau 18 Aug 1849 (p1022/1334) - maybe your Coralie? 

Marriage Xavier Matton - Catherine Smagge 26 Jan 1853 (p1097/1334.)
Xavier Ambroise Matton, age 55, born in Bollezeele on 29 Pluviose an 5 (= 17 Feb 1797), shoemaker (cordonnier), widower of Reine Virginie Cailliau who died Buysscheure on 4 Jan 1838. Parents Michel François Baudouin Matton (died Bollezeele 14 May 1811) and Marie Catherine Cécile Ryngaert (died Bollezeele 9 Feb 1836).
Catherine Barbe Lucie Smagge, born Buysscheure 8 Sep 1823, worker (ouvrière), widow of Pierre Louis Roseau who died in El Arrouch (Algeria) on 30 Aug 1850. Parents Jean Constant Smagge, roofer, and Rufine Françoise Debusscher, both residing Buysscheure.   

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:01 BST (UK) »
wow thankyou so much.

I was going to ask you that if i give you some record details, ie place, year and page number, could you transcribe them for me please.

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:07 BST (UK) »
Xavier Death
DUNKERQUE / D [1873-1877] p598/979

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:14 BST (UK) »
29Mar 1876, death of Xavier Ambroise Matton, journeyman,aged 79,born in Bollezeele, husband of Catherine Barbe Lucie Smagge, son of the late Michel Matton and Cécile Ringaert. Died at his home in Dunkerque, 11 rue du Petit Jardin.
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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:19 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much,

also this is what else i have so far, dont know whether they will have any more info on them tho.

Bollezeele
1838-1857
1127/1129 d.Louie Napolion
p1091/1129 b. Charles Matton

1858-1877
p69/892 b.Louie Matton
p219/892 Marie Matton

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:29 BST (UK) »

Eugénie Coralie Roseau 18 Aug 1849 (p1022/1334) - maybe your Coralie? 

Could well might be, the family story is that when they fled to Africa she had Coralie, and after the husband and boys died the fighting got worse and she ended up leaving the town where she was and ended up in the desert and some strangers gave her some camels milk to find the baby. I dont know much about the wars in this time period but mayby they fled after she was born. Are the records of birth or of baptism? and does it state how old they are at the time. I have a copy of a letter that Marie Matton daughter wrote about what her mother told her.

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 13:49 BST (UK) »
Thankyou so much for your help, i'm off to bed for the night (i'm in Australia).

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Re: France: Smagge, Matton & Roseau
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 22 October 13 14:36 BST (UK) »
I'm not aware of any war involving France around 1850.

These are all civil registration records (after 1792)
When Eugénie Coralie Roseau is born, dad is 38 and mum 25.

Bollezeele p. 1127/1129 23 Nov 1857
Xavier Ambroise Matton, age 60, no occupation (+ someone else) registers the death of Louis Napoléon Matton, age 4, born and residing Bollezeele, son of Xavier Ambroise Matton and his wife Catherine Smagge, no occupation, both residing Bollezeele. Death occurred the previous day at the boy's parents' home. (French death records don't show a cause of death)

Bollezeele p1091/1129 9 Mar 1857
Birth registration of Charles-Aimé Matton, born the same day at his parents' home section B of this commune, "sur la place" (town square), to Xavier Ambroise Matton, 59, no occupation, born and residing Bollezeele, and his wife Catherine Smagge, 35, "ouvrière", born Buysscheure.
Informants : the father
+ Pierre François Louis Devos, 37, ouvrier cordonnier (shoemaker), child's first cousin 
+ Louis Deberre (not related)       

p69/892 21 Nov 1859 
birth Louis Auguste Matton born Rue de Watten, section B, the same day
Father Xavier Ambroise Matton, 63, ouvrier, born and residing Bollezeele, mother Catherine Smagge, 39 born Beysscheure.   

p219/892 20 May 1862
birth Marie Louise Joséphine Matton, rue de Watten section A the same day.
Father Xavier Ambroise Matton, 66, ouvrier, born and residing Bollezeele, mother Catherine Smagge, 41, ouvrière, born Beysscheure. 
Witnesses not related.
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