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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 16:28 GMT (UK) »
Canadian incoming passenger list which has Evan Richards, 45, clergyman arriving in Vancouver, British Columbia on the Aorangi on either 31 Jan or 1 Feb 1929
   Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935, Roll T-14891

Border crossing document for a Rev Evan Richards, 45, who crossed the border into Canada on 1 Oct 1930.
  Border Crossings: From U.S. to Canada, 1908-1935

1930 US census for Evan Richards in Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne County, Pennsylvania who was a being a 44 year old clergyman born in Wales (parents born in Wales) who emigrated to the US in 1929.
  1930 Wilkes-Barre, Luzerne, PA Census

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You may be able to find census information/details on FamilySearch.  If you haven't yet tried, you might try internet searches for Rev. Richards, typing his name and trying things such as Wilkes-Barre, Vancouver, etc.  There may be additional information about him on the internet.

I can add the other entries later today if you like, unless someone else adds them before I return?  (I have to leave for a bit now)
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 16:33 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike:

Thank you for the very kind offer.  So far, I've only found Irish and English ancestors (and with the amazing help of other RootsChatters, an ancestor living in France); no Welsh ancestors.   ;)
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 22:31 GMT (UK) »

There is an US immigration information sheet for a Rev Evan Richards, 61, who flew to New York from London arriving 6 Oct 1946 which indicates he was destined to a church in Gilby, North Dakota.
  "Information Sheet" shown under New York Passenger Lists
  He was 5' 6", fair complexion, grey eyes and hair. Single.  Clergyman.  He was "returning home" (to North Dakota).  Place of birth: Ystradyrfodyg


UK passenger list which has Evan Richards, born 8 May 1885 arriving on the Queen Elizabeth which had departed from New York and arrived in Southampton on 6 Aug 1956.
  Information obtained from the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists.  Official No. 7601/01
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Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 29 October 13 23:27 GMT (UK) »
This may have already been mentioned, but including it, in case it hasn't been:
Wednesday, October 11, 1944, The Bismarck Tribune
There was a meeting of the North Dakota synod (Presbyterian Church).  Guests at the luncheon included Rev. Evan Richards (of Gilby), as well as three other people.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 01:47 GMT (UK) »
New York Passenger List
Sailing from Southampton, England to New York, arriving 21 June 1929, on board the Berengaria
Evan Richards, age 44, Single, Clergyman, born Ystradytodwg, Wales.  Last permanent address was Sydney, Australia.
Final destination:  Sydney, N.S.W.  In the U.S. before?:  Yes, 1928, Tourist.
Joining relative or friend:  c/o Thomas Cook, 5th Av., New York City; Touring; 2 months.
5' 7", fresh complexion, grey eyes and hair.  Will send a pm with a couple of other details.
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #14 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 05:08 GMT (UK) »
The North Dakota State University Archives has a searchable index of naturalization records at this link: http://library.ndsu.edu/db/naturalization/
Evan Richards filed a Declaration of Intent on 12 Feb 1945. There are instructions at the link on how to order a copy. It costs $5 US and they will email it to you.

Good job on the sources, Lisa. The only one I can add is the references to Evan officiating at weddings and funerals in Saskatchewan in the 1930s came from various announcements in the Winnipeg Free Press.

Jacquie
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 14:41 GMT (UK) »
Hi Both,
This is going to sound odd , after saying that all these posts are for 1(ONE) Rev Evan Richards,
 it could be that there are two !!! both Welsh both with same birthday and both spending time in Canada and the U.S. BUT only one spending time in Australia.
As you have seen in some items he is married,divorced,widowed and single.!! I haven't done a timeline but just on face value something isn't right.
Regards
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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 30 October 13 15:21 GMT (UK) »
It would be interesting to see a brief timeline.  There does seem to be something unusual, but perhaps it had something to do with his work?  Or, maybe most of the information was about one person, with one or two of the other records about a totally different person?
Ellison: Co. Wicklow/Canada       Fowley: Sligo/Canada       Furnival: Lancashire/Canada       Ibbotson: Sheffield/Canada       Lee/DeJongh: Lancashire & Cheshire       Mumford: Essex/Canada       Ovens: Ireland/Canada       Sarge: Yorkshire/Canada       Stuart: Sligo/Canada       Sullivan: Co. Clare/Canada      Vaus: Sussex/Surrey      Wakefield: Tuam or Ballinasloe, Ireland       (Surname: Originated/Place Last Lived)  (Canadians lived in Ontario)

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Re: The Rev Evan Richards in Bangor and Llewelyn
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 31 October 13 05:32 GMT (UK) »
As you have seen in some items he is married,divorced,widowed and single.!! I haven't done a timeline but just on face value something isn't right.

It could be that he just didn't want to refer to himself as being divorced so he said he was either a widower or single.

Here's a timeline that connects the information found:

The 1929 passenger list  for the Aorangi (from Australia to Canada) confirms this is the same Evan Richards who arrived in Canada in 1909. It also says he was born in Ystradytodwg, Wales.

The 1929 passenger list for the Berengaria (from Southampton to New York) has his last permanent residence as Sydney and his birth place as Ystradytodwg  which matches the other 1929 passenger list.

The 1929 Berengaria passenger list and the 1946 immigration information sheet when he was returning to Gilby give almost identical information (grey eyes, grey hair, born Ystradytodwg with the only difference being an inch in height).

I re-checked the 1930 border crossing document when he was going to Hamilton, Ontario from Pennsylvania and it indicates he had arrived in New York on the Berengaria in Jun 1929 so that connects him to the other passenger list documents.

The Evan Richards mentioned in the Winnipeg Free Press in the mid- to late 30s is in Bangor and Llewelyn  where a Rev Evan Richards was from 1909-1911.


Joining relative or friend:  c/o Thomas Cook, 5th Av., New York City; Touring; 2 months.

Since he says he was touring, Iím thinking this is Thomas Cook the travel agency and not a friend/relative.
Canada: Patterson, Brown, Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Johnston(e), Gorsuch, Kitchin/Kitchen
United States: Patterson, Smith, Brown, Vance, Bower(s), Newberry, Best, Love, Gorsuch
England (Northumberland): Brown, Whitfield, Henderson
Scotland (Glasgow, Edinburgh, Fife, East Lothian): Johnston(e), Bell, Galloway, Campbell, Robertson, Williamson, Thomson, Crawford
Germans from Russia: Haidenger/Heidinger, Meyer, Meach, Lorenz