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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #9 on: Friday 01 November 13 23:19 GMT (UK) »
And Martha's death notice (with a typo   ::) http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article12113898

SCILLEY -On the 31st March 1939 at Ormond Martha daughter of the late John and
James Black of Victoria street Eaglehawk loved sister of Mary (Mrs Williams deceased)
John (deceased) Jane (Mrs Rodda deceased) Margaret (Mrs Cousin) William, Elizabeth
(Mrs Schmidt deceased) Agnes (deceased) and Nellie (deceased)

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #10 on: Friday 01 November 13 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Just building on some of the findings of ciderdrinker, here is a more complete listing regarding the births (and some early deaths) of children.  Martha you have. 

To John BLACK and Jane RUSSELL

BLACK, John
Parents John and Jane RUSSEL(sic)
1861.
Myer's Flat
Reg 7305.


BLACK, Margaret Ann
Parents John and Jane RUSSELL
1863
Nerr
Reg.9824

BLACK, William
Parents John and Jane RUSSELL
1865
Eagl
Reg 21831

BLACK, Elizabeth
Parents John and Jane RUSSELL
1867
Eagl
Reg 14620

BLACK, Agnes
Parents John  and Jane RUSSELL
1872
Eagl.
Reg 22871

BLACK, Ellen
Parents John and Jane RUSSELL
1876
Nerr
Reg. 2210


Deaths

BLACK, John
Parents John and Jane  (No mother's surname listed)
Born Nerr.
Reg 7305

BLACK, Agnes
Aged 9 months
Parents John  and Jane RUSSELL
Born Eagl
1873
Reg 3876

BLACK, Ellen
Aged 11 yrs
Parents John  and Jane RUSSELL
Died at Eagl.
1887
Reg 6134

Burials at Eaglehawk Cemetery. All at location Mon H Grave 89
BLACK, Agnis (sic)

BLACK, Nellie
25/4/1887

BLACK Baby female
 8/8/1878

BLACK, Jenny
22/5/1894

BLACK, John
4/01/1892

At Bendigo Cemetery. Location-Pres 1240

BLACK, John
11/7/1862

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 02 November 13 00:09 GMT (UK) »
William SCILLEY was the first of at least seven births registered to Thomas SCILLEY and Margaret Jane (JOHNSTONE)

SCILLEY, William
Parents Thomas & Margaret Jane JOHNSTONE
1865
Eagl.
Reg 4218

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 November 13 00:25 GMT (UK) »
This is possibly Margaret Jane SCILLEY's arrival in Victoria.
I do not see any others of the surname on that voyage.

SCILLEY   MARY J   Aged 22. Date NOV 1863
Per LANDSBOROUGH 13A    Pg 256

 
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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 November 13 01:01 GMT (UK) »
Death notice for Margaret Jane Scilley in 1915 http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1533126

SCILLEY.-On the 3rd July, at "Guildford," private hospital, Shepparton, Margaret Jane, relict
of the late Thos. Scilley, of Katunga, aged 73  years. Beloved mother of William, Thomas,     
Andrew, James, George, also Mrs. D. B. Wilson, Holtom street, North Carlton, Mrs. G. V.
Furphy, Shepparton, Mrs. A. Gilmour, Coleraine. 
Native of County Londonderry, Ireland. A  colonist of 53 years.

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 November 13 01:07 GMT (UK) »
Unless your happy that the Jane Russell found in Sydney is the right girl (dubious) then this one may be the one.
The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Tuesday 21 April 1857, page 1
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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 02 November 13 02:17 GMT (UK) »
When Margaret Jane SCILLEY widow of Sheparton died in 1915, she left a will which she had drawn up in 1912.

She appointed sons William and James as trustees and was most attentive in favouring her daughters and daughter-in-law who all received generous bequests.

They are named in the document. A niece named Jean JOHNSTONE is also included.

The will is digitised for download and reading. ;D

http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 02 November 13 09:02 GMT (UK) »
Wonderful Ros, thank you very much :)

Do you think that John Black and Jane Russell were actually married ??? I'm beginning to think

that perhaps they weren't...I'm open to all suggestions ;D

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Re: Marriage - John Black & Jane Russell
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 02 November 13 10:05 GMT (UK) »
Apologies Neil and Sue, that will teach me to scroll down before answering a post :-[

Neil, I'm much happier with that Jane Russell in the newspaper, the one that Ciderdrinker found

just didn't sit well with me (but I do have an open mind!) However, if her birth was ca. 1837 that

would make her approx. 10yrs old on arrival...what do you think?

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Tait Orkney, Brown Orkney, Sinclair Orkney, Craigie Orkney, Foulis Orkney, Beard Gloucester & Bundarra NSW, Pamplin Cambridge & NSW, Ashman Cambridge, McCarthy Ireland & Glen Innes NSW, Raleigh Ireland, Connelly Ireland, Waldron Ireland.
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