Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912

[kshaw]

The two girls are Manasse's step daughters, He married their mother, Maria Wuoti in May 1918. I'm not sure how long or well they knew each other before hand. Maria had been Hilja's midwife when she had the stillborn girl, towards the end of 1917, not long before she herself died in Dec.

I've been unable to find any record of Manasse in Canada (for sure) until my Grandfather Jalo's birth. It's very odd since both the later census and his passport show he came over in 1904.

[kshaw]

I've even looked to see if he was using Todist or Toristo for the first while (since that's what's on the passport) but still nothing.

[jamcat95]

Ok, thanks for that. Saves looking elsewhere.


Ian

[jamcat95]

Have you tried getting the original documents from Thunder Bay just to see Hilja's surname as it was written?

Ian

[jamcat95]

Hi

I don't know if you have any info on Maria Wuoti but I took a look in the books too.

She was born Edla Maria Henriksdotter 24 April 1883 at Märtmark Village, Söderback Farm in Lappfjärd. She left for USA in 1902.
Her parents were Henrik Gustafsson and Maja Lisa Hermansdotter Haapala.


Here is the family from 1903:

Farmer Henrik Gustafsson  - b.10 June 1855 in Lappfjärd
Maja Lisa Hermansdotter Haapala - b.27 July 1853 in Jurva

Wilhelmina - b.29 Nov 1877
Johan Henrik - b.23 June 1880 in Lappfjärd
Edla Maria - b.27 April 1883 in Lappfjärd
Hulda Elina b.13 June 1885 in Lappfjärd
Josef Albin - b.26 Jan 1888 in Lappfjärd
Mickel Knut - b. 9 Jan 1891 in Lappfjärd
Oskar Richard - b.17 June 1894 in Lappfjärd
Edvard - b.16 Oct 1897 in Lappfjärd


Ian

[jorose]

At http://nanaimofamilyhistory.ca/passenger-list-project/ I saw a Hilja "Kurliza" aged 20 arriving in 1910, apparently with a sister (?) Anna, aged 24.  Can't work out how they're indexed otherwise but they can be seen at familysearch by looking up someone else on the same ship who happens to be on the same page:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2H2T-7QZ

On the original
Anna or Aina? Kul??a, 24
Hilja Kul??a, 20
There is a dot but hard to tell if it belongs to an i or if it and the tail below might be part of a j

Both heading to Port Arthur. They had a sister there (not named)

I think this might be Aina's marriage in late 1911:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS8J-6JN
"Kuljer" on index but "Kulja" in other areas.

Same parents, an Anna Olivia "Kuljii" married there in 1906:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KSZC-QXF

Same woman is "Kulju" at her daughter's birth in 1907:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV9H-XJ3F

John Arthur Ranta, her husband, died in 1908. I'm having trouble finding any of these people in the 1911 census or later.

[jamcat95]

Yes I can.

Do you think that the name Kutja is correct. I think it is mistranscribed. I am thinking on the lines of Kulju.
I have found a Hilja Serafiina Kulju born 13 Jan 1892 and nothing else to go on. I have the family on a "census" from 1900.

Ian

Well, this is strange.....

This family has a father Wilho Kulju and a mother Sofia Maria. Also 3 daughters..... Anna Olivia, Aina Fredrikka and Hilja Serafiina.
All these names appear on the documents found by jorose.
This looks to be the same family.

Ian

[jamcat95]

Here is the whole family from 1900 in Alatornio:
Wilho Kulja Henriksson
Sofia Maria Henriksdotter

Oskar - b.8 July 1877
Maria Eri - b.12 Sept 1879
Anna Olivia - b.19 March 1881 - married John Arthur Ranta
Hilda Sofia - b.29 Dec 1883
Aina Fredriika - b.17 July 1885 - married Jaakko Savfried Wuotila
Waino Eomis - b.2 Oct 1889
Hilja Seraphina - b.13 Jan 1892
Hanna - b.26 Jan 1894
Wilhelm Einar - b.15 Jan 1897
Emil - b.21 June 1899


Ian

[jamcat95]

Here is the mother Sofia Maria living at Toratti in 1877, the surname given in the documents.