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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 September 16 21:00 BST (UK) »
Hi, Wow thank you no I'd not seen those records. I was having a very hard time finding records outside of Canada from when they were living there.

Yes, I have her maiden name listed as Hilja Kutja of my grandfather's BC which fingers crossed I just attached.

I've found Manasse's name as both Toristo and Todisto. I have found his passport listing him as Johan Manasse Andersson but didn't know he was also known as Juha. Are you able to read these documents? I can find the names but not much more.

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 September 16 21:04 BST (UK) »
Cheers.
Yes I can read them, would you like a translation?

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #11 on: Friday 30 September 16 21:21 BST (UK) »
That would be amazing! I understand that you also have other records that you can't share because they are for members only.... but are you able to give me the info that's on them?

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #12 on: Friday 30 September 16 21:30 BST (UK) »
Yes I can.

Do you think that the name Kutja is correct. I think it is mistranscribed. I am thinking on the lines of Kulju.
I have found a Hilja Serafiina Kulju born 15 Jan 1892 and nothing else to go on. I have the family on a "census" from 1900.

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #13 on: Friday 30 September 16 21:48 BST (UK) »
It could be an error, I have only found two records that she's listed on and of the two that s the only one that has her maiden name. I've not even been able to find her MC with the date and place given on my grandfather's BC. 

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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #14 on: Friday 30 September 16 22:32 BST (UK) »
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I believe that I found him as M. Anderson listed on a steamer arriving in the Port of Port Arthur Aug 1911, from Duluth, MN from what I can tell Hilja is not on that passenger list.

According to the 1921 Census he arrived in 1904.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #15 on: Friday 30 September 16 23:24 BST (UK) »

Klaara, Siiro Matalo croft owner. Henrik Mattsson and wife Greta Lisa.
Godparents: Henrik Thomasson, Siiro and wife Justina Jacobsdotter. Markus Mattsson and Klara Johansdotter, Kankaanpää - christened in church by C.G. Hjerpe

Karl Anders, croft owner Anders Andersson Lamminharju and wife Maria's child.
Witnesses: Erik Mattsson Syväjaiir and Anna Greta Jakobsdotter, Samuel Enoksson Lamminharju and Maria Josefsdotter Siiro - christened in church by C.G. Hjerpe

Marriage record:
Hired man widower Karl Anders Andersson Lamminharju (30 years old) and croft owner's daughter Klara Andersdotter Korpi (28 years old) at Siiri, both from Wesijärvi.
Widower and unmarried.

It looks like the minister got Klara's surname wrong.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #16 on: Friday 30 September 16 23:29 BST (UK) »
Anders, Antti, Andreas and
Johan, Juha, John

are interchangeable in Finnish.


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Re: Finland: Hilja Kutja b. 1891 to Canada by 1912
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 01 October 16 00:35 BST (UK) »
I have his passport for institute of migration. Dated (passin paivays... Which I translated to me applied for or received) 13.05.1904
He was going to Amerikka (which I took to mean USA or Canada). I've search 1000's of passenger lists by hand, working from the 13 May 1904 onwards. The 25 yrs old, M. Anderson entering Canada in 1912 to Port Arthur is the closet match I've found. However I've not finished looking at all the passager list. I have also while searching for Manasse's entry, found his brother Swante. As far as my grandmother knows Manasse's son(my grandfather) had no idea that he had blood family so close.