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Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« on: Saturday 16 November 13 18:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi,

My grandfather died recently and we've been clearing through his belongings. We found the piece of wood shown in the attached photo in his garden shed - it's really beautifully carved and intricate (the photo doesn't really do it justice). It's about a foot wide and in surprisingly good condition considering how it's been stored for the last few decades! The workmanship is finer than the photo suggests, and the design is really very beautiful indeed. There is also a bottom piece which has come away but is identical to the top part of the main carving.

This is obviously a long shot, but I was just wondering if anyone's seen anything like this before. We're not sure what it would have been meant for. My grandfather and his father were both carpenters, but as far as I'm aware they did your standard furniture/house building and didn't produce craftsman's pieces like this. There is one exciting possibility - we know that my Granddad's father worked as a carpenter in Ireland in the early 1910s and helped build the grand staircase in the RMS Titanic. I expect it's probably impossible to say now with any certainty, but is there any chance this piece of carving may have been meant for the Titanic?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
Virgin, Mogford, Grant, Clay, Moss, Santer, Arkle

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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 16 November 13 18:24 GMT (UK) »
"The main staircase of the White Swan Hotel in Alnwick, England has banisters from the Olympic's Grand Staircase, which is presumed to have been identical to the Titanic's. The hotel's dining room is lined with the panelling from the first class lounge and the short section of stairs leading to the Dining Room. It also has railings from Olympic's grand staircase."

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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 16 November 13 18:29 GMT (UK) »
It is really lovely in your photo and I certainly wouldn't mind putting on display in my house  :)

Longshot here but perhaps try contacting Titanic museum in Belfast-
http://www.titanicbelfast.com/
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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 16 November 13 18:36 GMT (UK) »
What a lovely thing to have Rachael.

Not sure it's any help but there is a picture of a reconstruction of the Grand Staircase of the Titanic here.  There was certainly a lot of carving about.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/0wxu/

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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 16 November 13 18:43 GMT (UK) »
Wow, thanks for all of the answers everyone - you're very quick! The first photo of the staircase really made me look, and I paid particular attention to the carvings along the banisters - it's impossible to make them out in detail but it certainly seems possible that the panel we have may have been intended for them.

I found this photo of some banister carvings from the Olympia. The carving doesn't seem as fine, but they appear similar enough to make me excited!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/nostri-imago/3279467812/

I'll try emailing the museum  :).
Virgin, Mogford, Grant, Clay, Moss, Santer, Arkle

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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 16 November 13 19:12 GMT (UK) »
Any chance it could have been some sort of practice piece Rachael?
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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 16 November 13 23:58 GMT (UK) »
It certainly is a beautiful piece of carving.  Any idea what kind of wood was used?
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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 17 November 13 19:31 GMT (UK) »
We're not sure, but we think it might be oak - we're by no means expert though! The wood isn't naturally as dark as it appears in the photo - I can only assume the dark tint is because of some kind of tint or paint since traces of the unvarnished wood are visible on the detached piece.
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Re: Old piece of carved wood - Titanic connection?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 17 November 13 20:20 GMT (UK) »
That winged woman looks just like the winged woman on the Coat of Arms of Ireland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_Ireland
The bird could be from something as well but nothing is coming to mind just now.